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To: bjs1779

The woman's in a chronic persistent vegetative state caused by a heart attack. Good luck.

I hope that one day she comes out of it, but IMO this is just more clutching at straws.


20 posted on 02/14/2005 6:59:07 PM PST by Malleus Dei ("Communists are just Democrats in a hurry.")
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To: Malleus Dei

YOu must have missed post #7, need to have the speakers on.


21 posted on 02/14/2005 7:01:25 PM PST by tutstar ( <{{--->< http://ripe4change.4-all.org Violations of Florida Statutes ongoing!)
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To: Malleus Dei
You must know something that the doctors who have treated her do not know. A heart attack? 100% certain? Prove it.
23 posted on 02/14/2005 7:04:46 PM PST by Diva Betsy Ross (Just say no to the ACLU!)
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To: Malleus Dei
chronic persistent vegetative state

Look at the video in #7

Does she look vegetative to you?
24 posted on 02/14/2005 7:05:16 PM PST by clyde asbury
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To: Malleus Dei

Maybe you should find something out about her before you try educating others.

Terri is not in a Persistent Vegetative State. Even if she were, that wouldn't justify murdering her.

Terri never had a heart attack. Her medical records show that she was the victim of repeated violent trauma, resulting in broken bones on several occasions. The most likely cause of her collapse was asphyxiation.

I hope and pray Terri's condition improves, but even if it doesn't, she shouldn't be murdered.


26 posted on 02/14/2005 7:10:15 PM PST by BykrBayb (5 minutes of prayer for Terri, every day at 11 am EDT, until she's safe. http://www.terrisfight.org)
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To: Malleus Dei
The woman's in a chronic persistent vegetative state caused by a heart attack.

I used to think that too. The more you dig into this case the more you can't dismiss it. Just take a look at her bone scan for example.


27 posted on 02/14/2005 7:10:39 PM PST by bjs1779 (“the law of the case is that she is going to die”, Judge Greer in 2001)
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To: Malleus Dei

Any comments you have on the video are welcome, MD.


31 posted on 02/14/2005 7:19:50 PM PST by clyde asbury
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To: Malleus Dei

In the video in post #7 she sure doesn't look vegatative. I'm amazed at just how responsive Terri is.
Excuse my ignorance of legal things but how can her husband and the courts get away with this? She didn't have a living will, so we're supposed to take the word of her husband that she wants to starve to death? The following is an account written by a priest who has visited Terri.

Terri Schiavo
Fr. Frank Pavone
National Director, Priests for Life

She is not dying. She has no terminal illness. She is not in a coma. She is not on life-
support equipment. She is not alone, but rather has loving parents and siblings ready to care for her for the rest of her life. She has not requested death.

Yet a battle rages regarding whether Terri Schindler-Schiavo should be starved. She has sustained brain injuries and cannot speak or eat normally. Nevertheless, the only tube attached to her is a small, simple, painless feeding tube that provides her nourishment directly to her digestive system.

Her legal guardian is her husband, who already has another woman -- by whom he also has children. He wants Terri's feeding tube removed. Of course, he could simply allow
her to be cared for by her parents and siblings, and get on with his life, but he refuses.

I have had two opportunities to visit Terri, most recently on the first Sunday of February. I have been able to talk to her, to listen to her struggle to speak, to watch her focus her eyes and smile and attempt to kiss her parents. I have prayed with her, blessed her, and assured her that she has many friends around the country and around the world, who love her and want her to enjoy the same protections we all enjoy, even when we're wounded.

News articles have recently characterized Terri's situation by saying that some want to "keep her alive against her husband's wishes." But Terri is not dying. What does
"keeping her alive" mean, if not the same thing as keeping you and me alive -- that is, by giving us adequate food, shelter, and care?

Some say that Terri's family should "let her go." But this is not a matter of "letting her go," because she isn't "going" anywhere. If, however, she is deprived of nourishment, then she would slowly die in the same way that any of us would slowly die if we were deprived of nourishment. It is called starvation.

If the courts permit that to happen, then why should that permission apply only in Terri's case? There would be no way to limit it to her case alone. Countless others would follow, and their deaths would be described as "letting them die" instead of "killing them." Where, indeed, does the state get the authority to starve people? Court decisions permitting this lack all authority, as Pope John Paul II teaches in "The Gospel of Life" (section 72). These decisions cannot be obeyed, because they are not binding on the conscience and are in fact acts of violence.

At the present time, there are two simple things you can do. Educate your neighbors about this situation. Visit our website, www.priestsforlife.org, and click on the "Terri
Schiavo" link. Second, contact anyone you know in Florida and ask them to encourage their Governor and state legislators to continue doing everything possible to save Terri's life.

For more information on this crucial case, visit our website, www.priestsforlife.org.


35 posted on 02/14/2005 7:27:09 PM PST by pieces of time
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To: Malleus Dei
Well, duh...pure Leftist media, pure Leftist hit pieces...perfect fit.

The MSM is made up almost exclusively of Leftist extremists. We have to face that, guard against that, and fight that.

And then quote their lies, to help an innocent disabled woman be murdered. When several people confront you about the lies, don't respond.

36 posted on 02/14/2005 7:28:35 PM PST by BykrBayb (5 minutes of prayer for Terri, every day at 11 am EDT, until she's safe. http://www.terrisfight.org)
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To: Malleus Dei
Still downloading the video, MD?

I have an old 14.4 from '94, if you need to upgrade.
43 posted on 02/14/2005 7:38:38 PM PST by clyde asbury
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Check the updates here too--
The Empire Journal
http://www.theempirejournal.com/greer_schiavo_articles.htm


46 posted on 02/14/2005 7:43:39 PM PST by Chocolate Rose
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To: Malleus Dei
MALLEUS DEI WROTE: "The woman's in a chronic persistent vegetative state caused by a heart attack.

You are obviously new to the issue of Terri...OR...You have obviously been listening to the lamestream media.

Terri is NOT PVS!!! And she did NOT have a heart attack!!! Please do some research. You might start by going to:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1342344/posts?page=149#149
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1343286/posts?page=15#15
http://www.terrisfight.org.
http://www.theempirejournal.com

101 posted on 02/15/2005 12:10:09 AM PST by Concerned (RATS can't win unless they LIE, CHEAT and/or STEAL!!!)
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