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Conservative MP Ripped for Saying Gays Can Marry - Just Not Each Other (Canada)
Canadian Press ^ | February 13, 2005 | Bruce Cheadle

Posted on 02/14/2005 11:37:55 AM PST by West Coast Conservative

Conservative MP Jason Kenney says gays have every right to marry whoever they want - as long as it isn't someone of the same sex.

The Calgary MP made the remarks during a sometimes heated 40-minute discussion with members of the Toronto-area Punjabi language media, a recording of which was made available to The Canadian Press.

"The fact is that homosexuals aren't barred from marrying under Canadian law," Kenney said at the meeting of the Punjabi Press Club last month in Brampton, Ont. The group represents more than a dozen Punjabi-language newspapers.

Former NDP MP Svend Robinson - an outspoken gay rights advocate and Canada's first publicly declared gay MP - was once married to a woman, noted Kenney. He also said that NDP MP Libby Davies was once married to a man.

"Marriage is open to everybody, as long as they're a man and a woman," said Kenney.

"It doesn't say you can't marry if you're a homosexual. The fact is that homosexuals have been married and do marry."

-SNIP-

But Kenney said Sunday his remarks were intended to illustrate a point made in numerous same-sex court cases. People aren't excluded from marrying because they are gay. They're excluded because marriage itself requires a man and a woman.

"Marriage - in the eyes of those of us who support traditional marriage - is, by its nature, a heterosexual institution that requires the complementarity of the sexes," Kenney said from Calgary.

As Kenney told the Punjabi Press Club, "there's not a single human rights document in the world that enumerates a specific right to same-sex marriage," including those of the United Nations, European Union and Organization of American States.

(Excerpt) Read more at canada.com ...


TOPICS: Canada; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: alberta; canada; conservatism; marriage; samesexmarriage
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1 posted on 02/14/2005 11:37:55 AM PST by West Coast Conservative
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To: West Coast Conservative

>>>Conservative MP Jason Kenney says gays have every right to marry whoever they want - as long as it isn't someone of the same sex.<<

LOL, I agree! Good job Kenney!


2 posted on 02/14/2005 11:39:35 AM PST by rockabyebaby (What goes around, comes around!)
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To: West Coast Conservative

We have a couple good MPs up here, at least.


3 posted on 02/14/2005 11:40:15 AM PST by SweetPilotofCanuckistan
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To: West Coast Conservative

hmmmm GREAT point- homosexuals are not discriminated against- they have the same right to marry as anyone else.


4 posted on 02/14/2005 11:40:23 AM PST by Mr. K (this space for rent)
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To: West Coast Conservative

The left hates logic.


5 posted on 02/14/2005 11:40:37 AM PST by BenLurkin
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To: West Coast Conservative

I saw a movie about Cole Porter, a homosexual who married a woman. Nobody stopped him. Neither did it prevent him from becoming quite successful.


6 posted on 02/14/2005 11:41:19 AM PST by Paradox (Occam was probably right.)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Well said, Mr. Kenney.


7 posted on 02/14/2005 11:45:23 AM PST by ScottM1968
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To: West Coast Conservative

What the heck is the Punjabi Press Club? Is this part of Canada's multicultural landscape?


8 posted on 02/14/2005 11:47:14 AM PST by shekkian
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To: rockabyebaby

This guy actually gets it!

However, he is in Canada. Who will be getting the rope for the political lynching?


9 posted on 02/14/2005 12:09:16 PM PST by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: shekkian

A Punjabi Press is a wrestling move perfected by the late great MoHatma the MoFo. This is club celebrating that move.


10 posted on 02/14/2005 12:09:45 PM PST by Safetgiver (Mud slung is ground lost.)
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To: rockabyebaby

>>>Conservative MP Jason Kenney says gays have every right to marry whoever they want - as long as it isn't someone of the same sex.<<

And the same applies to all people, not just homosexuals. That equal rights thing can be a burden for people who consider themselves special.


11 posted on 02/14/2005 12:15:59 PM PST by L98Fiero
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To: West Coast Conservative

He's simply stating a fact. What's the big deal?


12 posted on 02/14/2005 12:21:58 PM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: West Coast Conservative; All

Sometimes the way you ask a question, as we all know, can influence the answer.

Talking about "allowing gays to marry" does sound somehow different from discussing men marrying men and women marrying women.


13 posted on 02/14/2005 12:26:09 PM PST by cvq3842
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To: West Coast Conservative

That's always been my argument. By the same token, heterosexuals do not have the right to marry anyone of the same sex either, so that "right" is not denied only to homosexuals.


14 posted on 02/14/2005 12:57:41 PM PST by alnick (Rice 2005: We've only just begun to see what Freedom can achieve.)
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To: alnick

Great argument. I love it. I plan to use it.


15 posted on 02/14/2005 1:06:22 PM PST by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys-Reagan and Bush)
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To: West Coast Conservative
Sounds like a good, sane MP.

Canada needs more like him.

16 posted on 02/14/2005 1:07:08 PM PST by cicero's_son
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To: West Coast Conservative

This comes up because people in favor of same-sex marriage speak of marriage as the act of setting up a legal and religous bond with someone you love. They then point out that it's discriminatory to allow heterosexuals to do this but ban homosexuals from doing so.

In debate, I challenge those taking this position to show me any marriage law that has the word "love" in it. Romantic love, while in my view a necessary moral requirement for marriage, is not so viewed by much of the planet and in any case has no bearing on the legal definition of civil marriage. Nor can any heterosexuals who love each other get married; I cannot marry my mother, my sister, or my daughter, yet I love them all (well, I don't have a sister, but if I did I'd love her). So there's two ways that their "definition" is false.


17 posted on 02/14/2005 1:16:32 PM PST by RonF
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To: alnick
Last week I spent some time calling the office of various MPs to find out where they stand. The office of my own MP (Kitchener-Waterloo) said that Lynn Myers would be supporting the legislation because as his receptionist said, he believed it to be an 'equal rights issue'. Here is the letter that I fired off to him (which is pretty much on the same wavelength). I of course have not had a reply.

Dear Sir,

Further to a phone call I made to your constituency office the other day, I was informed that you were in favour of supporting the government's same-sex legislation. When I asked why you have taken this position, I was further informed by your receptionist that you believe this to be an equal rights issue. This position comes as a complete surprise to me as I have never heard that homosexuals have any different rights than heterosexuals - certainly not in Canada where every single person has the right to marry someone of the opposite sex. It would certainly appear to me that if this legislation is passed, it will be granting special rights to a very small group of people based on 'what they do, not who they are'.

I cannot urge you strongly enough to absolutely reject this legislation.

XXXX XXXXX
18 posted on 02/14/2005 1:26:44 PM PST by Asfarastheeastisfromthewest...
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To: rockabyebaby
LOL, I agree! Good job Kenney!

Laughing aside, he is making a valid legal point. The gay marriage lobby has painted the issue as one of discrimination, and it's not. The 'sexual preference' angle has been used to muddy the waters. Gays have the exact same rights as straight people.

Either can marry (just one person at a time) but neither can marry a person of the opposite sex. Why would 'same sex' hetros want to get married, if they don't intend to have sex with each other? Lots of potential reasons -- inheritance --- financial manipulation --- protection from prosecution --- rights to naturalization/immigration.

I'd expect if same-sex marriage ever became widely legal, we would see many times more "straight" people than gays getting hitched. It will make marriage a pure joke. Polygamists can make the same distorted discrimination argument as gays, and they in fact have significant historical, social and religious president on their side Gay marriage has absolutely zero president in any social, religious or cultural tradition. This thing has been invented out of whole cloth in the last decade or so.

19 posted on 02/14/2005 1:36:30 PM PST by Ditto ( No trees were killed in sending this message, but billions of electrons were inconvenienced.)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Ol "slack Jaw" Svend Robinson...did he really sprain his jaw in a skiing accident...I think not.


20 posted on 02/14/2005 1:48:24 PM PST by MD_Willington_1976
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