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To: atomic_dog
this issue is a defining moment for the GOP.

sure, the Democratics have no solution to this problem - hell, they don't even see it as a problem, but if future elections are as close as the ones we've recently survived, then the GOP cannot afford to IGNORE this issue.

on a side note: the new FREEPER poll regarding illegal immigration shows that over 3,500 registered FReepers have voted. This shows how popular the FR website is. Could it be that there are some 5000 active FReepers regularly checking in? You bet!

The DUmmbasses are having their pathetic fundraising effort now - and I cannot help but think that they have somewhere between 500 and 1000 active DUmbasses

the last FR fundraising quarter showed 2172 donations (including monthlies).

as of last quarter FR had 22,734 registerd members - but I am sure that many are no longer active FReepers.

14 posted on 02/14/2005 10:12:21 AM PST by rface ("...the most schizoid freeper I've ever seen")
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To: rface

Immigration is not only necessary for American prosperity, it is necessary for American freedom and for the continuation of the background philosophy of this nation's founders (ie, not the freaking pilgrims, those idiot zealots didn't found anything).

America as a philosophy is not wed to a single language or a single so-called national culture, and must be allowed to grow and change as it always has. That's what freedom is all about. The borders should be open and free, and citizenship should go to those who want it, not just to those who feel it some sort of unearned birth right? How absurd. Pay taxes, respect or fight to change the laws. Asking anything else is positively unAmerican.

I, by the way, am an immigrant.


21 posted on 02/14/2005 10:20:11 AM PST by Slagathor
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To: rface
"the democrats have no solution to this problem"

Sure they do, you just never bothered to find out what it is.

The republican party is split, and the dems have the largest block of unified votes.

If Congress passes a reform bill, it will be heavily influenced by the dems. Probably more democratic than republican.

100 posted on 02/14/2005 11:58:39 AM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: rface
sure, the Democratics have no solution to this problem - hell, they don't even see it as a problem

What they see is a way to harvest a bumper crop of votes. In typical Democrat fashion they will take both sides of the issue by pandering to those for whom this is a key issue while running around perverting election law to make it easier for illegals to vote.

151 posted on 02/14/2005 8:20:51 PM PST by Doohickey ("This is a hard and dirty war, but when it's over, nothing will ever be too difficult again.”)
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To: rface

"as of last quarter FR had 22,734 registerd members"

Those are only the ones that have designated a state on their home page.

There are over 195,000 Freeper registrations.


152 posted on 02/14/2005 8:27:14 PM PST by dalereed
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