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Columbia Journalism Review Still Doesn't Have Clue about the Outing of Eason Jordan
Special to FreeRepublic ^ | 15 February 2005 | John Armor (CongressmanBillybob)

Posted on 02/14/2005 9:12:05 AM PST by Congressman Billybob

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To: Congressman Billybob

CJR, watching the proverbial light at the end of the tunnel...not recognizing the approaching headlight shining at them.


61 posted on 02/14/2005 8:48:54 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Congressman Billybob
Isn't it interesting that the derisive attitude and manner of describing, what the "self anointed professional journalists," use to describe the red state voters, bears a striking resemblance to how the unknown-faceless they are described as a slavering lynch mob.

Is there a play book in use here? Just asking.

62 posted on 02/14/2005 9:45:09 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: Congressman Billybob

I get the sense they aren't just ignorant of what the bloggers are all about .. they appear to be ignoring us in the hopes we are just a fad and will disappear into the night. Calling us names is a psychological way of demeaning us as a competitor .. and helps them to pretend we are not important enough to deal with.


63 posted on 02/14/2005 11:04:37 PM PST by CyberAnt (Pres. Bush: "Self-government relies, in the end, on the governing of the self.")
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To: Congressman Billybob

I see now that my link refers to a different reporter exposed (?) by the Blogosphere.

Does anyone know about Gannon, who supposedly was taken down by a leftist "lynch mob"?


64 posted on 02/15/2005 4:09:12 AM PST by TaxRelief (Support the Troops Rally, Fayetteville, NC -- March 19, 2005)
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To: okie01
At any given time, every "reporter" on Free Republic has a thousand-or-so of the toughest editors in the business checking his work, testing his theses, confirming his facts...and correcting his grammar and spelling.

And unlike the MSM, ours is an open boardroom, with all discussions taking place publicly and in real-time.

65 posted on 02/15/2005 4:13:05 AM PST by TaxRelief (Support the Troops Rally, Fayetteville, NC -- March 19, 2005)
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To: Congressman Billybob
And THAT, as you and others have noted, IS a paradigm shift different from what has come before

It is on two levels. First of all, the story got legs without MSM involvement. And second, and even more telling, it got legs without video. It used to be that there had to be coverage on TV with visual images that the great unwashed could understand in order for a story to get noticed. There was no video of a smoking gun here. But it didn't matter. Eyewitness accounts of the gun being fired sufficed for enough people to notice.

Which means the blog audience is both larger than the MSM ever thought and they are also more analytical and more capable of connecting the dots without relying on visual imagry to form an opinion - and also don't require the guiding hands of the anchor and the correspondents to connect those dots. And THAT scares the MSM types as much as the fact that the blog world can now perform a 60 Minutes-style colonoscophy on those accustomed to performing such, not receiving such.

66 posted on 02/15/2005 4:30:20 AM PST by dirtboy (Drooling moron since 1998...)
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To: Congressman Billybob
There are perhaps 200 people in the blogosphere who are at the cutting edge of all the issues that may arise. All of us operate the same way that I was trained to function as a lawyer. Assemble the evidence, reduce it to a cogent argument, and then argue it to the jury. In our cases, the "jury" is a few hundred editors in the MSM who make the decisions about what will be reported, and how. In our cases, we know that the jury is predisposed to bury the story we are promoting, so we always have an uphill fight.

Our work is "peer-reviewed" in that tens of thousands of people will read what we write, and some will seek to take it apart, brick by brick. So what we write has to be solidly based and defensible.


At The Joy of Blogging & More on Startrek Enterprise, Randy Barnett mentions the fact-checking, and also points out rapid updates and corrections by the blogger as differences:
If I make the slightest factual error in a blog post, I can count on the readers to point it out PRONTO. This is why blogging can be more accurate than traditional journalism which relies on "editors" to catch the mistakes of reporters. And unlike traditional journalism, I have a ready means to correct errors almost instantaneously. How can an ordinary beat reporter correct even errors of which she or he later becomes aware? This is a real advantage of this media over that of traditional journalism that has nothing to do with the skill, good faith or biases of journalists. They do not have ready access to the knowledge of their readers and they cannot readily correct any errors they make.

67 posted on 02/15/2005 4:34:55 AM PST by Mike Fieschko
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To: dirtboy
Great! initial post.

But I saw something in the faces of all the talking heads this weekend that I had never seen before. I literally saw fear in their faces.

Exactly. They now realize that their 6 figure salaries, their second and third daschas, and their Zils are in jeopardy from the likes of us. They went to the Academy to get their little journalism degrees and their Lefty professors told them they'd be on Easy Street, AND they'd get to feed the unwashed masses "the correct thoughts", with no challenge.

Oops!

We're a threat to their paychecks, and that means that they're going to get REAL nasty about it. ;-)

68 posted on 02/15/2005 6:11:02 AM PST by an amused spectator (Zogbyism is a disease)
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To: an amused spectator

Nasty is not the word for it. It will get very personal and very ugly.

(look for MSM to push for REGULATION of the internet, perhaps even licensing reporters as a desperate effort to silence the criticism)

These reporters never heard anything bad about themselves or how piss poor their stories were, or how they were missing the stories.


69 posted on 02/15/2005 6:44:42 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Congressman Billybob
The whole war on the "blogosphere" by the MSM is hilarious!

I watched a couple of the cable news shows last night. It seems clear that the strategery of the MSM and its allies like Bob Beckel (one of the guests) is to smear ALL bloggers as reckless and irresponsible barbarians at the gates of the Holy Temple of Professional Journalism.

As Fred Friendly said many times, though, journalism is NOT a profession. You don't need a license; there aren't any professional standards; you can't be barred from practicing it. Hence, this demand for "credentials" and "standards" is preposterous -- journalism is about finding the TRUTH. Anyone who can write coherently and can find a truthful newsworthy story can enter at any time.

It galls the graduates of the Columbia School of Journalism that Freepers cried out that the Emperor (Dan Rather) was naked. Having lost any interest in the TRUTH and become a tool at the service of the legacy political culture, they are vulnerable to anyone who does tell the truth. Their only option is the current smear campaign, which, as I said, is hilarious.

I couldn't stop laughing last night hearing MSM defenders scream about how the barbarian bloggers are only interested in smearing people and getting folks fired from their jobs!! What have THEY been doing since 1973? The WATERGATE generation upset about attacks on public figures?? They are being hoisted on their own petard.

Somewhere, Dick Nixon is laughing his ass off.

70 posted on 02/15/2005 8:21:49 AM PST by You Dirty Rats (Mindless BushBot)
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To: an amused spectator
We're a threat to their paychecks, and that means that they're going to get REAL nasty about it. ;-)

As much as the threat to their paychecks bothers them, it's nothing compared to the loss of their monopoly power over information. And THAT is nothing in comparison to the threat to their own self-image, as more and more of their number are exposed as lying sacks of you-know-what!

71 posted on 02/15/2005 8:23:47 AM PST by You Dirty Rats (Mindless BushBot)
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To: Congressman Billybob

Taxman Bravo Zulu! my FRiend!


72 posted on 02/15/2005 8:25:36 AM PST by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: longtermmemmory

I was thinking about this this morning on my hour and a half commute (lots of time to think). In what way COULD regulation, not so much be placed upon, but be enforced against the internet media? How does one (anyone) regulate blogs? The gov't has already displayed a complete ineptitude for regulating ANYTHING internet related (anc anyone say CAN-SPAM?).

I guess I see the PUSH for regulations but in the end, it is completely unenforceable. Unless someone sees something I don't??


73 posted on 02/15/2005 8:36:26 AM PST by SketchMD ("Shut up I'm thinking, I had a clue now it's gone forever" ~Dave Matthews Band, Warehouse)
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To: dirtboy

The following would indicate that you are correct. Everything changed last week:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1343547/posts


74 posted on 02/15/2005 9:06:42 AM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: Congressman Billybob; Peach; Miss Marple

Thank you for writing for us all, CBB.

I must point out that for CJR to come to grips with the internet methodology is going to take the a lot longer than they realize. Some of us have been active in the development of this Media for over ten years - I was involved in the "gopher" days long before FR about 1991 or so. This media has evolved under the radar for a very long time, and it is not new. Many of us are very experienced in separating the wheat from the chaff and that is why we so seldom are misled. The CJR reporters and the other Old Media simply don't have the background to comprehend what has been going on and why and how we are now effective.

It is going to be a long time before they do, I think, and by that time our numbers will have grown even greater and more formidable. This revolution is not going to be easily suppressed, despite the things they still are wont to believe.


75 posted on 02/15/2005 1:58:07 PM PST by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: JesseJane


I've been writing about this stuff for a long time now. What is coming will be a fight to the finish demanding an unconditional surrender. Six months ago, I wrote for not the first time:




To: Timeout

I stated (at length in discussions) on a thread a couple days ago that this is now not only a battle between the SwiftVets and the peaceniks of the 60s, but that this campaign has become a battle - a great battle - between the Old Media Fraudcasters and other mediots, and the New Media - with talk radio/ internet/ blogs.

This has become a battle to the death. Only one will be left standing. The 'Nam Vets (including me and many of my fellows in arms) are not going to be able to be silenced by the President or by the Demodogs or by the Fraudcasters. We know the truth. There is a great well of support we can draw on, and righteous anger about the way we have been treated. Many others are just as angry about how they have been misled by the Fraudcasters and the NYSlimes, et al, and they are now seeing a way to "get a bit of their own back."

The Old Media and the Fraudcasters have gotten away with lying for so long now, and the critical mass of people has been reached who understand it and now are fed up with that. Don't be surprised if some of those outlets are no longer "news" outlets four years from now.

It is a monumental struggle now. Many realize it, too. It will result in monumental changes in the way the bulk of people get their news.
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1204754/posts?page=3683#3683
3,683 posted on 09/02/2004 1:08:14 AM EDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))



Our enemy will use every weapon and trick they can in an attempt to lower our influence. The FRAUDcasters of the Old Media are out to get us --- don't ever forget that, and keep it in mind as we carry on our First Amendment assault against the Fourth Estate, which has become a "fifth column" against Traditional America and traditional values.


I am dead serious about this being a major war.

You and I and other FReepers are in the dead center of this battle - whether we realize that or not. The Leftists who "went into journalism" in the 60s and 70s to "change the world" are at war with traditional values of traditional America. Their major obstacle now, and for some years, has been the internet.

It is only since Drudge's "blue dress" report that they became even peripherally aware of that. The 'net carrying the SwiftVets to prominence, and the rapid destruction of CBS' FRAUDcast, to name only two recent battles, has brought the Old Media to realize that they are under attack, at long last. Their walls are crumbling, and their empire is failing. Bush's victory despite FOUR YEARS of bashing by the Old Media talking heads and transparent bias of the MSM news to those of us who have worked toward understanding the truth, was a severe blow to them. They will be reeling for two years from this and won't be able to believe it.

They don't like it, and they will fight this as hard as they can. They'll do all they can to deter more people from joining the ranks of those free from their influence. But - they will lose in the end.
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76 posted on 02/15/2005 2:06:17 PM PST by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: dirtboy

I believe that the coming of age was about six months ago: when the SwiftVets were supported and vaulted into the public consciousness by their measly $200k, a few interviews on talk radio and Fox, and relentless and constant publicizing by FR and others on the internet.
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77 posted on 02/15/2005 2:11:27 PM PST by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: AFPhys
I agree with you that the Swift Boat Vets was a major milestone in new media. But the MSM still eventually chimed in and was part of the story.

With Eason Jordan, the MSM made a couple of feeble attempts to downplay the story. But otherwise, all the action took place in the blogsphere and on limited talk radio. So it was another milestone. And a very profound one.

78 posted on 02/15/2005 2:18:23 PM PST by dirtboy (Drooling moron since 1998...)
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To: AFPhys

AFP,
I think you are absolutely right. I believe there are efforts far and above the entrenched media that will go to the ends of the earth, to shut free speech down, and control the message. For the moment, we have the free will to choose what we believe is true. The left has a highly organized plan to shut down conservative voices, and beyond that, any that question or support their agenda. The events during the Presidential campaign was the final proof for me that the left will do anything to silence perceived and real enemies.


79 posted on 02/15/2005 2:19:26 PM PST by JesseJane (KERRY: I have had conversations with leaders, yes, recently.That's not your business, it's mine.)
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To: dirtboy
I agree with you that the Swift Boat Vets was a major milestone in new media. But the MSM still eventually chimed in and was part of the story.

I would say that the big Washington Post story on Kerry and the Rassman-Mekong Delta events that led to his Silver Star, with a big full-page map, was the media "blinking."

-PJ

80 posted on 02/15/2005 2:31:33 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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