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Columbia Journalism Review Still Doesn't Have Clue about the Outing of Eason Jordan
Special to FreeRepublic ^ | 15 February 2005 | John Armor (CongressmanBillybob)

Posted on 02/14/2005 9:12:05 AM PST by Congressman Billybob

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To: Congressman Billybob

Excellent post,as usual.[Please excuse me now,I have to clean the spittle off my modem.]


21 posted on 02/14/2005 10:31:01 AM PST by Clint Lippo
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To: Congressman Billybob; Constitution Day; Helms; 100%FEDUP; 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; ~Vor~; ...
An absolute must read: Our own Congressman Billybob takes on the Columbia Journalism Review.

NC *Ping*

Please FRmail Constitution Day, TaxRelief OR Helms if you want to be added to or removed from this North Carolina ping list.
22 posted on 02/14/2005 10:34:24 AM PST by TaxRelief (Support the Troops Rally, Fayetteville, NC -- March 19, 2005)
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To: FreedomSurge; Congressman Billybob
Expect FreeRepublic to be sued over the O Malley affair.

Fortunately lawsuits take a very long time.

Suing FR over the O'Malley affair would be the equivalent of suing a city over slanderous graffiti on a column under a remote bridge.

23 posted on 02/14/2005 10:41:56 AM PST by TaxRelief (Support the Troops Rally, Fayetteville, NC -- March 19, 2005)
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To: Congressman Billybob
I did say, "The slavering morons who make up the lynch mob prevail." That is not the same as saying that every poli-blogger, or even every blogger gunning for Jordan, is a slavering moron. It is to say that those who do fit that description have prevailed in this instance

"Gee, I didn't say that ALL blacks were stupid, but the niggers are!"

24 posted on 02/14/2005 10:47:51 AM PST by Paradox (Occam was probably right.)
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To: TaxRelief; All
I've just received a note from Steve Lovelady that he "declines" to read this thread. But he will post his response to this kerfuffle over his egregious remark in the friendly confines of the "CJR Daily." As soon as he does that, I will post a response suggesting that the Review should discipline him for his slander (which will become libel, as soon as he publishes his response there).

I will copy the exchange on CJR Daily, and post it here. It should be amusing.

John / Billybob

25 posted on 02/14/2005 10:51:57 AM PST by Congressman Billybob (My tagline is on vacation.)
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To: FranklinsTower
I see already how they are going to attack. First, they'll try to smear the players by pointing to the so called rabid fans. After seeing that will not work, they'll try and plant a player or a bogus issue to try and smear the credibility of all bloggers.

I can't help wondering if we here on FR aren't seeing the first tentative steps in re:the Immigration threads. The level of moonbattieness on them strikes me as more and more suspicious. JimRob seems to be handling it, though.

26 posted on 02/14/2005 11:06:44 AM PST by Right Winged American (No matter how Cynical I get, I just can't keep up!)
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To: TaxRelief

Read and bumped.


27 posted on 02/14/2005 11:13:02 AM PST by JWinNC (www.webgent.com)
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To: Congressman Billybob

Excellent! I smell a classic Catch-22 coming up!


28 posted on 02/14/2005 11:16:53 AM PST by Carolinamom
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To: Congressman Billybob

Hmm, "pajama brigade" versus "kneepad brigade" skirmish shaping up...?? ;-)



29 posted on 02/14/2005 11:50:52 AM PST by SteveH
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To: Right Winged American
It is true, that there are people out there who would love to see Republicans in a bitter immigration fight amongst ourselves. The same is true for Social Security and Medicare.

Thus, we see a lot of "shock merchants." Thanks to years on FR, I have learned to be patient because most of the time when these "shock merchants" bare their wares (teeth), things turn out not to be as advertised. This little piece of patience and wisdom has saved me from much mental anguish and grief.

30 posted on 02/14/2005 12:06:12 PM PST by FranklinsTower
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To: SteveH
You got that right.

John / Billybob
31 posted on 02/14/2005 12:27:28 PM PST by Congressman Billybob (My tagline is on vacation.)
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To: Congressman Billybob
I was amazed that he resigned so swiftly.

But it was on a Friday (how Clintonesque), and he would have to wait a week for the next Friday..

32 posted on 02/14/2005 1:06:44 PM PST by bruin66 (Time: Nature's way of keeping everything from happening at once.)
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To: Congressman Billybob

Well done!


33 posted on 02/14/2005 1:48:01 PM PST by JesseJane (KERRY: I have had conversations with leaders, yes, recently.That's not your business, it's mine.)
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To: Congressman Billybob

Good shot!


34 posted on 02/14/2005 2:03:01 PM PST by Beckwith (I know Churchill, and Ward Churchill is no Churchill . . . he ain't an Indian either . . .)
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To: JesseJane; bruin66; All
Steve Lovelady, who happens to be the Managing Editor of the Columbia Journalism Review, has posted his renewed apologetic concerning the professional demise of Eason Jordan here.

For some odd reason, Lovelady's comments seem to be the only entry on CJR Daily which does not permit folks to post comments about it. Also, he neglects to mention is "slavering morons" and "lynch mob" which he has confirmed is an accurate quote, in his latest post. (If anyone can solve the post-to-Lovelady's-post problem, please let me know.

The short of it is this: No one should make such a comment about any group, especially without bothering to research the backgrounds and bona fides of those involved. This is twice-times true when this slander (libel, if is published) when done by someone who purports to be a journalist. (Lovelady told me that he formerly worked for Time magazine.) This is three-times true when it is done by a leading official of the voice of the oracle of the MSM, the CJR.

He still owes us an apology. He still has no clue why Jordan had it coming. He still has no real clue about the nature of what we members of the "Pajama Patrol" do, and how seriously we take our task.

John / Billybob

35 posted on 02/14/2005 2:04:32 PM PST by Congressman Billybob (My tagline is on vacation.)
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To: abb

You said: A newspaperman once told me, "News is what your editor says it is, unless the publisher says it isn't." Used to be, that was true. Not any more - we're the publishers and editors.
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It is these sorts of mini-admissions that are slowly, but surely, sinking the MSM. On the editorial pages we expect opinion and bias. But the MSM leak this into the "news" areas of publications, and when they get called on it, they lose, bit by bit, their authority and power. The blogts are there to take up the slack. Thank God.



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36 posted on 02/14/2005 2:07:09 PM PST by NCLaw441
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To: Congressman Billybob

Good job, John. Lovelady sounds like he's a ... no ... wait... are you sure I can't call him an insulting name?


37 posted on 02/14/2005 2:11:59 PM PST by Aegedius (Veni, vidi, icked-kay utt-bay.)
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To: Aegedius
I called him an "unprofessional journalist." That's a sufficiently nasty name for now. Unlike him, I will restraint myself from gratuitous insults.

John / Billybob
38 posted on 02/14/2005 2:20:00 PM PST by Congressman Billybob (My tagline is on vacation.)
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To: Congressman Billybob

Perhaps a new department is in order at the Columbia School of Journalism, that of Blog Studies. You could be this new depatment's head Billybob. Just my two cents...JFK


39 posted on 02/14/2005 2:24:37 PM PST by BADROTOFINGER (Life sucks. Get a helmet.)
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To: Congressman Billybob
CBB,

Firstly keep up the good work. I am a relatively new reader of your posts.

Secondly, in reading literally THOUSANDS of posts related to Jeff Gannon, Eason Jordan, Dan Rather (who?), we seem to have settled in with an understanding that it was 'all the rest of us' warring with the MSM. MSM (television branch) seemed to think that by ignoring the internet forums, chats, aggravated viewers and listeners, everyone would eventually get tired, shut up and go away. But that didn't happen.. more and more the battle shifted to the internet. With published internet pieces being called into question, debated, debunked, self-corrected, and in some cases invitimg a participatory audience, the old medium for dispensing the news and spoon feeding us opinions we ought have, has suffered a lethal blow. It was the abuse of pubic trust, that removed all credibility from the OLD medium, and the speed to the truth, that'll bury them.

That said, there is another level of a battle brewing as I see it . It's not left v right, TV v internet (forums, blogs etc.), is OLD VERSUS NEW.

The failures of network news to report (fairly) and shove pre-screened, neatly packaged agenda items down it's viewers throats, FORCED people to go to the internet for the news. Clicking about, finding voices that sounds like yours, then, human nature is to know what others are saying. Voices from all political stripes weighing rumor against the facts, and coming down with a conclusion made for ones own self. Some of the cyber voices are founded and fueled by hatred. Proudly wearing their bias, is actually a good thing for a reader to know going in. The smoke and mirrors scam by the alphabet networks is taking it's last breaths. It's own blatent bias and arrogance forced us to take our 'business' elsewhere. I'll make up my own mind now thank you.


But I see a second wave. That being the left TV newsies, battling it out with their lefty forums, bloggers etc., for delivering the news. Let me add this: the TV / Print News orgs are USED to setting the agenda.. but that is not necessarily the case in cyber world. Right or left there are different flavors, and TO ME, it's even more threatening to the left to allow the fringe in their own party take control the message, while losing control of the party. Afterall, what is a lefty these days? To me, they're a collection of special interest wackjobs. There is no unified cohesive BELIEVABLE vision coming out of that wing.

The media *age* is changing. And Jurassic Park is closing.

My 2 cents.

40 posted on 02/14/2005 2:43:37 PM PST by JesseJane (KERRY: I have had conversations with leaders, yes, recently.That's not your business, it's mine.)
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