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9/11: Debunking The Myths (Popular Mechanics)
Popular Mechanics Magazine ^ | March 2005 | Popular Mechanics

Posted on 02/13/2005 3:59:00 PM PST by OK

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This is an online 9 page article debunking the most popular 9/11 conspiracy theories with actual physical facts. It is an excellent read for those who have been assaulted with these internet theories.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/defense/1227842.html

1 posted on 02/13/2005 3:59:01 PM PST by OK
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To: OK

You don't understand conspiracies. Anyone who debunks them is just another conspirator who needs to be investigated.


2 posted on 02/13/2005 4:03:01 PM PST by proxy_user
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To: OK

3 posted on 02/13/2005 4:04:11 PM PST by KoRn
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To: proxy_user

Oh yeah, I understand it only too well. There is a gold forum at kitco.com where people swear by this stuff.


4 posted on 02/13/2005 4:05:59 PM PST by OK
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Lol, that is so true. Popular Mechanics will now be considered to be part of the "conspiracy" by the nut-jobs. But for the rest of us, at least when we hear some of these rants, we will have some good evidence and reasoning so we will not be fooled ourselves... that is, if there is actually anyone who comes here who could believe that crap to begin with.
5 posted on 02/13/2005 4:08:20 PM PST by WindOracle
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To: OK

The sad thing about this, is that other incidents that are in need of further investingation get lumped with it.

Let me guess, the loons on this subject have yet to indentify those funny looking missiles that hit the Trade Center towers. Mercy. Get real folks!


6 posted on 02/13/2005 4:09:59 PM PST by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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You guys with ping lists need to spread this one around!


7 posted on 02/13/2005 4:10:02 PM PST by OK
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To: OK

I may have missed it, but is there a site to access 9/11 photos? One that has a good library of the photos? I'd better start saving them before they are all "sealed" because we are not able to handle these images, pschologically...

RB


8 posted on 02/13/2005 4:15:02 PM PST by brushcop (American first, last, always--no hyphens here.)
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Let me know the next time you hear the song "Leaving on a Jet Plane" on the radio. LOL


9 posted on 02/13/2005 4:24:25 PM PST by perfect stranger (Godel, Escher and Bach. The Eternal Golden Braid)
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To: OK

Looks as though Popular Mechanics did a good job on this one.


10 posted on 02/13/2005 4:25:47 PM PST by marktwain
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To: brushcop

Here is a good library of photos, including some of the more painful ones.

http://www.jsonline.com/art/news/attackpix091101/photos091101.asp


11 posted on 02/13/2005 4:43:49 PM PST by MediaMole
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To: OK

Aw heck and all this time I've been under the impression the Quakers did it......


12 posted on 02/13/2005 4:49:02 PM PST by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: OK

This is great reporting. Now the beacons of American journalism get beat to the punch by Popular Mechanics.

The following is their treatment of the flight 93 "white plane" mystery.

The White Jet
CLAIM: At least six eyewitnesses say they saw a small white jet flying low over the crash area almost immediately after Flight 93 went down. BlogD.com theorizes that the aircraft was downed by "either a missile fired from an Air Force jet, or via an electronic assault made by a U.S. Customs airplane reported to have been seen near the site minutes after Flight 93 crashed." WorldNetDaily.com weighs in: "Witnesses to this low-flying jet ... told their story to journalists. Shortly thereafter, the FBI began to attack the witnesses with perhaps the most inane disinformation ever--alleging the witnesses actually observed a private jet at 34,000 ft. The FBI says the jet was asked to come down to 5000 ft. and try to find the crash site. This would require about 20 minutes to descend."

FACT: There was such a jet in the vicinity--a Dassault Falcon 20 business jet owned by the VF Corp. of Greensboro, N.C., an apparel company that markets Wrangler jeans and other brands. The VF plane was flying into Johnstown-Cambria airport, 20 miles north of Shanksville. According to David Newell, VF's director of aviation and travel, the FAA's Cleveland Center contacted copilot Yates Gladwell when the Falcon was at an altitude "in the neighborhood of 3000 to 4000 ft."--not 34,000 ft. "They were in a descent already going into Johnstown," Newell adds. "The FAA asked them to investigate and they did. They got down within 1500 ft. of the ground when they circled. They saw a hole in the ground with smoke coming out of it. They pinpointed the location and then continued on." Reached by PM, Gladwell confirmed this account but, concerned about ongoing harassment by conspiracy theorists, asked not to be quoted directly."


13 posted on 02/13/2005 5:00:48 PM PST by concentric circles
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OT: I'd read something 'way after the 11th where some 'journalist' had asked a demolitions expert his/her professional opinion of the collapse.

The expert said something like "for an uncontrolled collapse it came down pretty neatly" (meaning how the debris landed, nothing to do with the smoke and ash) and the person got crucified by idiots about how unpatriotic a statement it was, etc.

Has anyone else heard of this incident? I can't find anything on Snopes, Google, et.al. about it.

14 posted on 02/13/2005 5:03:00 PM PST by solitas (So what if I support a platform that has fewer flaws than yours? 'Mystic' dual 500 G4's, OSX.3.6)
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To: OK

Can the center fuel tank of TWA 800 be next on Popular Mechanics review schedule?


15 posted on 02/13/2005 5:06:01 PM PST by Incorrigible (immanentizing the eschaton)
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To: OK

Most of those "conspiracy theories" are preposterous, but I also believe that there are a number of aspects of 9/11 that haven't been examined closely enough in a public forum. In particular, I've suspected since 9/11 that one of the major factors in the collapse of the Twin Towers was a flawed design.


16 posted on 02/13/2005 5:39:02 PM PST by Alberta's Child (I'm not expecting to grow flowers in the desert.)
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To: OK
There was a moron at the Pittsburgh indymedia that claimed it was holograms that brought the towers down.
17 posted on 02/13/2005 5:59:42 PM PST by JoJo Gunn (More than two lawyers in any Country constitutes a terrorist organization. ©)
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To: festus
And I thought the Mormons did it.
18 posted on 02/13/2005 6:39:31 PM PST by lolhelp
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I have to quibble with the term "flawed design". The towers were designed to withstand the impact of the largest airliner made at the time they were constructed. The planes that crashed into them were significantly larger. Also, both these planes had a full load of fuel. Project planners figured planes hitting the WTC would hit it accidentally, and would be flying into NY, not out, as the takeoff patterns from the airports in the area avoid the main city.

While it would have been possible to design a building which would have withstood the impact of planes larger than the largest planes manufactured at the time with full loads of fuel directly targeting the buildings to create the most damage possible, there are cost considerations. Also, at the time of construction, terrorism of this type simply wasn't considered as a possibility.

Designing buildings that can withstand any form of terror attack is kind of like trying to design a highway that prevents people from deliberately ramming other cars. I can't think, offhand of any buildings over 50 stories tall that could have withstood a similar attack.

19 posted on 02/13/2005 6:55:29 PM PST by Richard Kimball (It was a joke. You know, humor. Like the funny kind. Only different.)
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There's no way to design an "invincible" building, but those towers were built using an external lattice frame that was considered innovative and unusual at the time. Basically, there were no interior columns to support the structures.

From a practical standpoint, those things probably never should have been built. They had to come up with that kind of creative design just to make the buildings economical -- by maximizing the leasable floor space while minimizing the space lost to structural elements.

Osama bin Laden was a civil engineer by training, and I've always suspected that his knowledge of structural design was a factor in selecting the WTC as a target both in 1993 and in 2001.

20 posted on 02/13/2005 7:39:58 PM PST by Alberta's Child (I'm not expecting to grow flowers in the desert.)
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