Posted on 02/13/2005 1:50:29 PM PST by foolscap
PORTLAND, Ore. (AP) - A man who used an Internet chat room to try to set up a mass suicide on Valentine's Day had been trying to persuade women for at least five years to have sex with him and then kill themselves, a sheriff said Sunday. Gerald Krein faces charges of solicitation to commit murder, but prosecutors are expected to increase the charge to attempted manslaughter Monday, said Klamath County Sheriff Tim Evinger.
Combing through old chat room records, investigators discovered that Krein had been enticing women across North America to commit suicide as far back as 2000, Evinger said. Krein told investigators he elicited more than two dozen suicide pledges for the Valentine's Day plot, authorities said.
"The common theme is that these were women who were vulnerable, who were depressed. He invited them to engage in certain sexual acts with him - and then they were to hang themselves naked from a beam in his house," the sheriff said. "He was indicating in these chat groups to these women that he had a beam and that it would hold multiple people."
No deaths had been found that were linked to Krein, the sheriff said, but he said he would not be surprised if someone had killed herself as a result of Krein's alleged activities.
"My concern is if he's been doing this for some time, it's my hope that he hasn't been successful - but it could turn out that he has been," he said.
Krein, 26, was arrested Wednesday at his mother's home in the southern Oregon town of Klamath Falls.
Detectives learned of the Valentine's Day plan from a woman in Ontario, Canada, who said she saw a message in a Yahoo chat room that had "Suicide Ideology" in the title. Chat room participants supposedly planned to commit suicide on Valentine's Day while logged on with each other. The chat room is no longer active.
The woman told detectives she was going to take part in the suicide but had second thoughts when another chat room participant talked about killing her children before taking her own life, Evinger said earlier.
Krein told investigators at least 31 chat room participants agreed to the suicide pact, authorities said. So far, investigators have tracked down four women: the woman who came forward in Canada and three others living in Oregon, Missouri and Virginia.
"In the Missouri and Virginia case, he was inviting them to bring their children with them," said Evinger. "It would have been four children total."
While the Valentine's Day suicide was intended to be executed as a group, others were intended as individual experiences, said Evinger.
"He had a Web cam," said Evinger.
"As our computer specialists have been going through mail groups and old chat rooms and old postings and looking at some things that are in the public domain out there, it became clear that he has a history of doing this," Evinger said.
Ambitious f*cker.
I've been working harder, for longer, at just trying to get the sex part.
He was probably born that way. We need to be sensitive.
LOL - Maybe that has been his experience - A drunk woman has sex with him and, after seeing him when she is sober and in the light, has an understandable urge to kill herself.
No, this guy is a ghoul seeking to get others to kill themselves, so he can satisfy his ghoulish desires. The likelihood that he would have actually killed himself along with all of the others is essentially zero. He had no intention of dying—that would have interfered with his taking of pleasure from the deaths of all of the others.
If there were justice in the world, he'd be the only one to die as a result of his efforts.
What does your Mom say when she gets home from her job and you have girls hanging from the ceiling. "Gerald take your girlfriends down and take out the garbage."
At least, second dates....
FMCDH(BITS)
Dang, he should have been reading the DUFU's here. There are plenty of people over at the DUmp that fit this profile and would have volunteered. Talk about a missed opportunity...sheesh!
DUmmies hanging from the ceiling!!! LMAO/
Yeah sick humor..... I know, I know!
O.K. the people that were talking about killing their kids...that seems to apply. As sick as it is, how exactly is enticing someone to kill themselves either of the two stated crimes?
I think in my bachelor days ; I had sex with women , who then wanted to commit suicide. Does this make me guilty?..... LOL
Planned Parenthood...
Ok so lets say the lad was successfull in getting a gal to hang herself in his house. Did he honestly think the cops would buy the "No really she hung herself at myhouse right after I had sex with her all by herself. I was not involved at all. Nope Nosirreee" story ? Even if it was true they'd give him life or worse before they were done with him.
The Marooon....
Not on the first date.
Very long sales cycle...
"I've been working harder, for longer, at just trying
to get the sex part".
------all you needed all this time was a gimmick, like
Krein.
I would imagine that would be a difficult proposition to sell.
A couple of dozen fewer DemocRATs?
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