Kingston is NOT "upstate" - it's "downstate" to real NY'ers
(we call it north jersey)
Kingston is rural, but getting overrun with downstate gangs
It's also the "overnight stop" for all the drug traffic coming north to albany and beyond
It's also right next to woodstock - where all the hippies who never grew up reside - and hatch people like Jason West (Mayor of New "Putz" paltz)
"Chuckie" and "Hildebeast" are going to be on this like stink on a water buffalo
Buffalo is not "upstate" either - it's "western tier"
Fox News website:
KINGSTON, N.Y. At least two gunmen opened fire Sunday inside a mall in upstate New York, authorities said.
The gunmen began shooting inside the Hudson Valley Mall in Kingston, about 52 miles south of Albany. One gunman was taken into police custody.
Mayor James Sottile said at least one person was hurt and taken by helicopter to a hospital.
Authorities restricted access to the mall, and several helicopters and police teams surrounded the area.
They got one shooter...You know their beating the shit out of him to get him to give up his comrades. I was an LA cop for 22 years. This kid would be very near death if he's not talking! It ain't pretty but that's the wy it's got to be sometimes.
Thugs, thugs, thugs,On both sides of the badge, yes?
I worked my way through college in the mid 1960s as a cop and saw some horrible things. Most of them were pretty decent, but there were quite a few sadistic bastards who would brag about "thumping" someone from time to time. (This was in Tulsa)...
Wow, and I just recently finished that Clancy novel where the terrorists shoot up innocents in a shopping mall(s).
Guns, especially machine guns, are illegal in New York. So this story has to be bogus. It can't happen...guns are banned! Fox news must be pulling a SeeBS. What did they do, hire Cronkite Jr?
Shooter started in best Buy at one end of the mall and ended up at filene's at the other end. gunfire sounded like fireworks. Fight last night ....gang related. CNN earwitness report.
http://www.wten.com/Global/story.asp?S=2914129
Area Malls Have High Crime Weekend
(posted: February 7th, 7:30pm) After a weekend of heavy police activity at Crossgates Mall and Colonie Center, NEWS10 decided to look into crime statistics at the two major shopping centers.
Tens of thousands of people are likely to shop at the mall in any given week, but some obviously are not there to shop.
A video surveillance tape captured a pretty violent fight that took place at Crossgates in 1998. It is just an extreme example of what could happen.
"Not just at Crossgates but anywhere there is a large area for people to congregate, you're always going to have those types of issues where people's behavior is questionable," said Lt. Curtis Cox of the Guilderland Police Department.
Lt. Cox said Guilderland Police responded to more questionable behavior at Crossgates Mall over this past weekend where 43 police reports were filed on Friday and Saturday. So far three juveniles have been arrested.
There were the typical reports for stolen credit card use and shoplifting, but also calls for rock throwing, harassment and fights. Some offenders were kicked out of the mall.
"The kids come in, you know, at a certain hour, you know, they sit there, they do get loud but other than that, I haven't seen any problems since I've been there," said Sandra Rooks, a mall worker.
In 2004, Guilderland Police made 433 adult criminal arrests at Crossgates. At Colonie Center, Colonie Police arrested 199 people last year. But shoppers say they feel plenty safe.
"I think I'm very safe here when I shop. I'd rather shop here then, say, on a city street," said one female shopper.
"If you're with friends and you're with people, no one's going to, like come up to you," said shopper Alisha Polsineli.
Two of the Pyramid Corporation's 16 malls have instituted a teen curfew on Friday and Saturday nights, including the Carousel Mall in Syracuse and the Walden Galleria in Buffalo. Crossgates officials said they're "doing research" and are "looking into it" and it is something they're "not ruling out."
Terrorist related?
Mind you, it was the same week the Berlin Wall fell....
Just damn.
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Mucho ado about nothing:-)
AW.. the mob has been using machine guns since the 19 twentys.. We have lots of mobs now..
This thread has really jumped the track
I am sorry I ever started this thread :P It is embarrassing. The news media really did a bad job on this one.
Random shooting, one shot in the leg - will it reach 1000 posts? Stay tuned...
Are they looking for rednecks in a white pickup yet? If these are Muslims the media will have to make a tough choice - do an anti-gun piece or ignore the episode? What agenda will win?
Look at the bright side, his seeing eye dog didn't bite anyone.
Gunman Accused in Mall Shooting Arraigned
11 minutes ago U.S. National - AP
By MICHAEL HILL, Associated Press Writer
KINGSTON, N.Y. - A 24-year-old man was arraigned early Monday on assault charges after he allegedly opened fire in a crowded shopping mall, wounding two people and sending shoppers scrambling for safety.
AP Photo
Robert Bonelli was arraigned shortly before 1 a.m. in Ulster Town Court on first- and second-degree assault and reckless endangerment, according to Brian Woltman, a dispatcher for the Town of Ulster Police Department.
Bonelli, of nearby Saugerties, was being held in Ulster County Jail without bail pending a town court appearance on Wednesday, Woltman said.
According to police, Bonelli opened fire with an assault-type rifle Sunday afternoon inside the Best Buy store in the Hudson Valley Mall, just outside Kingston, about 55 miles south of Albany.
After firing several shots, he made is way into the mall corridor and continued shooting until running out of ammunition near the center court, witnesses said. He then laid down the weapon and was tackled by two mall workers, police said.
State police Capt. Wayne Olson said investigators did not know the exact number of shots fired but he said it was a "significant number of rounds."
"It's shocking that it happened," Ulster Town Supervisor Fred Wadnola said. "But I guess that's the way our society is going today."
The wounded included a National Guard recruiter who was in a recruiting booth inside the mall when he was shot. Olson said the 20-year-old recruiter might lose his leg. Hospital officials did not release any information.
The second victim, a 56-year-old man, had superficial gunshot wounds to his left arm, thigh and leg, Olson said. Two other people had bullet holes in their pant legs, Olson said.
"We consider it fortunate that more people were not struck," Olson said. "Sunday afternoon in a crowded mall, it really has all the potential in the world to be a disaster."
Ali Afshar, owner of a mall kiosk, said he saw the shooter being tackled from behind by two men who work at Dick's Sporting Goods. "They hit him and took him to the floor and held him there," Afshar said.
Michael Bovalino, chief executive officer of the mall's parent company, said crisis counselors would be available for mall employees Monday. "Our main concern at this point is the well being of those that were injured," Bovalino said in a statement
But New York has very strict gun control laws. An attack with machine guns is inconceivable!