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1 posted on 02/13/2005 1:18:19 PM PST by sunnysky
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Just a few points...

Kingston is NOT "upstate" - it's "downstate" to real NY'ers

(we call it north jersey)

Kingston is rural, but getting overrun with downstate gangs

It's also the "overnight stop" for all the drug traffic coming north to albany and beyond

It's also right next to woodstock - where all the hippies who never grew up reside - and hatch people like Jason West (Mayor of New "Putz" paltz)

"Chuckie" and "Hildebeast" are going to be on this like stink on a water buffalo

Buffalo is not "upstate" either - it's "western tier"

378 posted on 02/13/2005 2:15:28 PM PST by xcamel (Deep Red, stuck in a "bleu" state.)
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Fox News website:
KINGSTON, N.Y. — At least two gunmen opened fire Sunday inside a mall in upstate New York, authorities said.
The gunmen began shooting inside the Hudson Valley Mall in Kingston, about 52 miles south of Albany. One gunman was taken into police custody.
Mayor James Sottile said at least one person was hurt and taken by helicopter to a hospital.
Authorities restricted access to the mall, and several helicopters and police teams surrounded the area.


410 posted on 02/13/2005 2:22:08 PM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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DUmmies make me sick. Some of them have turned this tragedy into an opportunity to b***h about police brutallity. I wish I didn't lose my posting privelages there already so I could lose them now. Jerk-offs.

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They got one shooter...You know their beating the shit out of him to get him to give up his comrades. I was an LA cop for 22 years. This kid would be very near death if he's not talking! It ain't pretty but that's the wy it's got to be sometimes.

Thugs, thugs, thugs,On both sides of the badge, yes?

I worked my way through college in the mid 1960s as a cop and saw some horrible things. Most of them were pretty decent, but there were quite a few sadistic bastards who would brag about "thumping" someone from time to time. (This was in Tulsa)...

412 posted on 02/13/2005 2:22:46 PM PST by JCRoberts (I am Keyser Soze)
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Wow, and I just recently finished that Clancy novel where the terrorists shoot up innocents in a shopping mall(s).


417 posted on 02/13/2005 2:23:14 PM PST by Radix (If I thought your Tag Line was better than mine, I wouldn't be using this one!)
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Guns, especially machine guns, are illegal in New York. So this story has to be bogus. It can't happen...guns are banned! Fox news must be pulling a SeeBS. What did they do, hire Cronkite Jr?


441 posted on 02/13/2005 2:26:52 PM PST by GGpaX4DumpedTea
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Shooter started in best Buy at one end of the mall and ended up at filene's at the other end. gunfire sounded like fireworks. Fight last night ....gang related. CNN earwitness report.


513 posted on 02/13/2005 2:36:22 PM PST by Stentor
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http://www.wten.com/Global/story.asp?S=2914129


Area Malls Have High Crime Weekend


(posted: February 7th, 7:30pm) After a weekend of heavy police activity at Crossgates Mall and Colonie Center, NEWS10 decided to look into crime statistics at the two major shopping centers.

Tens of thousands of people are likely to shop at the mall in any given week, but some obviously are not there to shop.

A video surveillance tape captured a pretty violent fight that took place at Crossgates in 1998. It is just an extreme example of what could happen.

"Not just at Crossgates but anywhere there is a large area for people to congregate, you're always going to have those types of issues where people's behavior is questionable," said Lt. Curtis Cox of the Guilderland Police Department.

Lt. Cox said Guilderland Police responded to more questionable behavior at Crossgates Mall over this past weekend where 43 police reports were filed on Friday and Saturday. So far three juveniles have been arrested.

There were the typical reports for stolen credit card use and shoplifting, but also calls for rock throwing, harassment and fights. Some offenders were kicked out of the mall.

"The kids come in, you know, at a certain hour, you know, they sit there, they do get loud but other than that, I haven't seen any problems since I've been there," said Sandra Rooks, a mall worker.

In 2004, Guilderland Police made 433 adult criminal arrests at Crossgates. At Colonie Center, Colonie Police arrested 199 people last year. But shoppers say they feel plenty safe.

"I think I'm very safe here when I shop. I'd rather shop here then, say, on a city street," said one female shopper.

"If you're with friends and you're with people, no one's going to, like come up to you," said shopper Alisha Polsineli.

Two of the Pyramid Corporation's 16 malls have instituted a teen curfew on Friday and Saturday nights, including the Carousel Mall in Syracuse and the Walden Galleria in Buffalo. Crossgates officials said they're "doing research" and are "looking into it" and it is something they're "not ruling out."


681 posted on 02/13/2005 2:57:26 PM PST by Ellesu
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Terrorist related?


722 posted on 02/13/2005 3:04:47 PM PST by trubluolyguy ("I like you, therefore when I rule the world, your death shall be quick and painless")
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To: sunnysky; Howlin; Ed_NYC; MonroeDNA; widgysoft; Springman; Timesink; dubyaismypresident; Grani; ...
Whoa! I spent a week there in retail management training in 1989, while working for Walden Software. The training store was in that same mall.

Mind you, it was the same week the Berlin Wall fell....

Just damn.

If you want on the list, FReepmail me. This IS a high-volume PING list...

752 posted on 02/13/2005 3:10:34 PM PST by mhking (Do not mess with dragons, for thou art crunchy & good with ketchup...)
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Lone gunman. Two injuries (one cut by glass).

Typical media "the world is ending!" bs.
771 posted on 02/13/2005 3:12:56 PM PST by self_evident
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Mucho ado about nothing:-)


818 posted on 02/13/2005 3:19:42 PM PST by moondoggie
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AW.. the mob has been using machine guns since the 19 twentys.. We have lots of mobs now..


890 posted on 02/13/2005 3:44:58 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been ok'ed me to included some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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This thread has really jumped the track


951 posted on 02/13/2005 4:15:45 PM PST by P8riot (Stupid is forever. Ignorance can be fixed.)
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I am sorry I ever started this thread :P It is embarrassing. The news media really did a bad job on this one.


958 posted on 02/13/2005 4:25:17 PM PST by sunnysky
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Random shooting, one shot in the leg - will it reach 1000 posts? Stay tuned...


990 posted on 02/13/2005 5:26:28 PM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth...)
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Are they looking for rednecks in a white pickup yet? If these are Muslims the media will have to make a tough choice - do an anti-gun piece or ignore the episode? What agenda will win?


1,022 posted on 02/13/2005 6:59:54 PM PST by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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Look at the bright side, his seeing eye dog didn't bite anyone.


1,044 posted on 02/13/2005 8:07:05 PM PST by TERMINATTOR ("I believe in background checks at gun shows or anywhere" - GWB)
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Gunman Accused in Mall Shooting Arraigned

11 minutes ago U.S. National - AP



By MICHAEL HILL, Associated Press Writer

KINGSTON, N.Y. - A 24-year-old man was arraigned early Monday on assault charges after he allegedly opened fire in a crowded shopping mall, wounding two people and sending shoppers scrambling for safety.


AP Photo



Robert Bonelli was arraigned shortly before 1 a.m. in Ulster Town Court on first- and second-degree assault and reckless endangerment, according to Brian Woltman, a dispatcher for the Town of Ulster Police Department.


Bonelli, of nearby Saugerties, was being held in Ulster County Jail without bail pending a town court appearance on Wednesday, Woltman said.


According to police, Bonelli opened fire with an assault-type rifle Sunday afternoon inside the Best Buy store in the Hudson Valley Mall, just outside Kingston, about 55 miles south of Albany.


After firing several shots, he made is way into the mall corridor and continued shooting until running out of ammunition near the center court, witnesses said. He then laid down the weapon and was tackled by two mall workers, police said.


State police Capt. Wayne Olson said investigators did not know the exact number of shots fired but he said it was a "significant number of rounds."


"It's shocking that it happened," Ulster Town Supervisor Fred Wadnola said. "But I guess that's the way our society is going today."


The wounded included a National Guard recruiter who was in a recruiting booth inside the mall when he was shot. Olson said the 20-year-old recruiter might lose his leg. Hospital officials did not release any information.


The second victim, a 56-year-old man, had superficial gunshot wounds to his left arm, thigh and leg, Olson said. Two other people had bullet holes in their pant legs, Olson said.


"We consider it fortunate that more people were not struck," Olson said. "Sunday afternoon in a crowded mall, it really has all the potential in the world to be a disaster."


Ali Afshar, owner of a mall kiosk, said he saw the shooter being tackled from behind by two men who work at Dick's Sporting Goods. "They hit him and took him to the floor and held him there," Afshar said.


Michael Bovalino, chief executive officer of the mall's parent company, said crisis counselors would be available for mall employees Monday. "Our main concern at this point is the well being of those that were injured," Bovalino said in a statement


1,069 posted on 02/14/2005 4:22:30 AM PST by sharpink (righting wrongs real or imagined)
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But New York has very strict gun control laws. An attack with machine guns is inconceivable!


1,109 posted on 02/14/2005 2:44:23 PM PST by VRWCmember ("You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means." - Indigo Montoya)
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