And where would you place todays America?
Both of you, try reading Hilaire Belloc's The Servile State!
The book was written before the Russian revolution, and correctly predicts that the collision of capitalism and communism will lead to a state in which some are compelled to work primarily for the good of others--(can you say Social Security?)--and is a fun read anyway, even if it goes slowly.
Cheers!
I see that you've been proved correct once again.
Perhaps I will.
"I challenged and I kept the Faith
The bleeding path alone I trod,
It darkens. Stand about my wraith,
and harbour me, almighty God."