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1 posted on 02/12/2005 11:28:08 AM PST by quidnunc
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To: quidnunc

I say ruin the plot. Why have people see this tripe?


2 posted on 02/12/2005 11:34:09 AM PST by fooman (Get real with Kim Jung Mentally Ill about proliferation)
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To: quidnunc

I say ruin the plot. Why have people see this tripe?


3 posted on 02/12/2005 11:34:21 AM PST by fooman (Get real with Kim Jung Mentally Ill about proliferation)
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To: quidnunc

In a society where people believe they have a constitutional right to kill a baby simply because it is inconvenient to let it live, how could one expect any life to have value?


4 posted on 02/12/2005 11:39:16 AM PST by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: quidnunc

What can you expect from a society that thinks it is their right to get wasted and then go kill some innocent women and children with their automobile at the rate of some 50 a day in the US.


5 posted on 02/12/2005 11:42:02 AM PST by UseYourHead (Beware of the Rinos - McCain, Hagel, Lugar, and Specter)
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To: quidnunc

The most incredible irony of all--a paralyzed person who can communicate can ask to have feeding tubes removed...I don't plan to see this movie, but is this point ever presented?


6 posted on 02/12/2005 11:45:05 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: quidnunc
Hi qd, good post.

I don't know how many other FReepers feel this way, but I would prefer that you link to the printer friendly version of an article when available, so that I don't have to endure the graphical gewgaws.

Just a thought. Thanks.

7 posted on 02/12/2005 11:46:22 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The fourth estate is the fifth column.)
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To: quidnunc
Last week, our archdiocesan paper here in Atlanta, The Georgia Bulletin, published a glowing review of "Million Dollar Baby," with only a slight caveat to indicate that a plot twist made the outcome problematic. (I'd link the article, but only a few parts of the paper are online.) I sent them a letter, which (to their credit) they published this week:
Having failed to convince the public that killing babies in the womb is courageous and compassionate, American devotees of the Culture of Death  have now trained their propaganda guns on the elderly and the disabled.  What Jane Wilson called an "unsettling turn" in Clint Eastwood's "Million Dollar Baby" is in fact a cinematic endorsement of euthanasia. 

Last month the National Spinal Cord Injury Association accused Eastwood of a "disability vendetta," describing the last scene of his film as a "brilliantly executed attack on life after a spinal cord injury." The group's chief executive said Eastwood was using the "power of fame and film to perpetuate his view that the lives of people with disabilities are not worth living."  The disability-rights group Not Yet Dead has picketed "Million Dollar Baby"  because, as one of its reviewers argued,  the film "plays out killing as a romantic fantasy and gives emotional life to the `better dead than disabled' mindset."

As the USCCB review of the film indicates, because of the artistic power of the film "our sympathies and humane inclinations may argue in favor of such misguided compassion, but our Catholic faith prohibits us from getting around the fact that, in this case, the best-intended ends cannot justify the chosen means: the taking of a life."

It hardly seems coincidental that such a film is coming out at the same time self-styled progressives are demanding that the state of California lift its ban on doctor-assisted suicide.  As the Terri Schiavo case so sadly illustrates, the Catholic Church is one of the few institutions in this country willing to take a stand for those whose lives depend entirely on the care of others.

Jane Wilson noted with approval that the Hollywood elite loved "Million Dollar Baby."  She did not mention that this is the same elite that rejected "The Passion of the Christ" as overly violent and propagandistic.  Not did she point out that our bishops have given "Million Dollar Baby" a rating of O - Morally Offensive.  I think Catholic readers have a right to expect greater moral clarity in the archdiocesan paper, even in the film reviews.


11 posted on 02/12/2005 12:14:39 PM PST by madprof98
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To: quidnunc
I am at a loss to understand why this is now a hot button issue when this same plot has been used in several TV shows and Films.
This plot was used in the TV show "Dallas" several years back when Southfork Foreman Ray Krebbs did what his nephew Mickey wanted when confronted with the same situation and Ray pulled the plug on him but did stand trial for Murder.
In the 1981 movie "Whose Life is it Anyway", Richard Dreyfuss plays an artist who is totally paralyzed and ends up going to court to be permitted to die.
So this is nothing new and I really don't think Clint Eastwood has an agenda it's just a movie with a compelling story.
Also what about Ronald Reagan and his film "Kings Row" where he was depressed enough to want to die after both his legs were amputated?
This theme just makes for a high drama and a story that grabs you and possibly to make you think and ask questions, nothing more.
To be fair I have not seen "Million Dollar Baby", but I may when it hits DVD although the main reason I haven't seen it is I just don't like Hillary Swank that much and it's not my kind of film.
I will say the rhetoric on this has gotten way out of hand and I think we have more important issues to worry about.
I would like to know if Michael Medved, who started all of this, saw and had opinions about the examples I have mentioned.
16 posted on 02/12/2005 12:30:12 PM PST by Captain Peter Blood
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To: quidnunc
A disturbing trend to be sure.

On a somewhat more disturbing note, what in the blue hell is Hollywood thinking with these plot lines? In a recent film Colin Farrell is seen kissing a 12 year old girl. Also in a recent film Nicole Kidman is in a nude/sensual bath scene with a 12 year old boy. Noted director Brian DePalma is currently (reportedly) searching for "a young looking actress (the younger the better) who has no problem doing a lesbian type scene."

The news of late is rife with stories of teachers engaging in sexual misconduct and abuse with their students. Are we on the road to accepting adult- child sex as a matter of course? Homosexuality went from abhorred to accepted to adored, and that is between consenting adults. What stage is pedophilia currently resting on? NAMBLA must be salivating at the possibilities.

19 posted on 02/12/2005 12:43:29 PM PST by infidel29 (America is GREAT because she is GOOD, the moment she ceases to be GOOD, she ceases to be GREAT- B.F.)
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To: quidnunc

I guess "Baby" is one movie that I won't pay any money to see, and forget the DVD.


24 posted on 02/12/2005 1:51:18 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Deport 'em all; let Fox sort 'em out!)
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To: quidnunc

Million Dollar Baby should win the Acadamy Award for Best Picture, although it won't be a classic played in 100 years like The Passion of the Christ will be.


29 posted on 02/12/2005 3:59:15 PM PST by paleocon patriarch ("Never attribute to a conspiracy that which can be explained by incompetence.")
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To: quidnunc
Just killing the "weeds" of society. Now who was it that said that???

Pray for W and Our Freedom Winning Troops

39 posted on 02/12/2005 7:18:26 PM PST by bray (Iraq Freed Politically and Pray it will be Freed Spiritually)
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To: quidnunc
Hollywood hasn't made more than a hand full of good movies in the past 10 years.

I quit subscribing to HBO and others this year.

I could find hardly any movies that were not about homosexuality, abnormal Jewish family life, cursing every other word, or in most cases just plain bad scripts.

However Tom Selleck makes good Westerns that my family can watch with out embarrassment.
49 posted on 02/13/2005 10:00:05 AM PST by OKIEDOC (LL THE)
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I saw "The Sea Inside" and as a disabled person, I thought the movie was average. I feel certain this guy would have committed suicide as a normal person, and the fact he was disabled had little to do with his "kill myself" wishes.

Most disabled people I know( I know many ) have found an inner peace, even happiness, with their disability and killing themselves is not on the list of to-do's.

As is the case with most "gimp" movies, the movie shows a person with a very supportive family, love interests, and an overall average daily life. Generally, life is not so picturesque as portrayed in this movie.
54 posted on 02/13/2005 10:21:17 AM PST by devane617
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To: quidnunc

It's a movie!


57 posted on 02/13/2005 10:43:21 AM PST by Poser (Joining Belly Girl in the Pajamahadeen)
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Suicide is an issue. It is reality. I do not fault anyone for making a movie that helps people face reality. Assisted suicide is something else. It is murder with the murderer looking for a pass because he really thought he was helping someone.
Is this something we as a society want to permit?


60 posted on 02/13/2005 11:10:49 AM PST by OldEagle (Haven't been wrong since 1947, except about Hillary.)
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We just got back from seeing the Will Smith movie Hitch. I need to warn people that the movie deals with the controversial issue of "an old woman pretending to choke on a grape".

This is important because the movie was not marketed as a movie that deals with "old women choking".

There is a slippery slope here, first the old women pretend to choke and the next thing you know they are on the crack and robbing banks.


65 posted on 02/13/2005 4:48:17 PM PST by Mark was here (My tag line was about to be censored.)
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