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Laptops for All Cobb Students? $70 Million.
The Atlanta Journal/Constitution ^ | 02/10/2005 | Kristin Torres

Posted on 02/12/2005 8:22:21 AM PST by groanup

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To: Swordmaker
No.  It's not.  That's like saying "Windows IS Dos".  Both Windows and OSX are GUIs built on other OSs but they are not the other OSs.

I bet over 95% of all Apple users wouldn't have the slightest idea what to do if they saw:

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101 posted on 02/12/2005 5:54:22 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny (“I know a great deal about the Middle East because I’ve been raising Arabian horses" Patrick Swazey)
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To: Terpfen
IIRC, Gates owns 12% of Apple.

No, that isn't true... Microsoft acquired some non-voting preferred stock several years ago but it has long since been sold.

102 posted on 02/12/2005 6:11:57 PM PST by Swordmaker (Tagline now open, please ring bell.)
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To: Psycho_Bunny
No.  It's not. 

Yes, it is. And if the schools want to teach UNIX it is one of the best platforms for that purpose. In actual usage, the best thing students can do is learn how to write their essays on computers and do their research on the internet.

103 posted on 02/12/2005 6:14:30 PM PST by Swordmaker (Tagline now open, please ring bell.)
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To: Swordmaker

Gotcha.


104 posted on 02/12/2005 6:14:53 PM PST by Terpfen (New Democrat Party motto: les enfant terribles)
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To: groanup
What they don't tell us is how much the maintenance is gonna cost em. That's what Apple is banking on.


105 posted on 02/12/2005 6:14:57 PM PST by unixfox (AMERICA - 20 Million ILLEGALS Can't Be Wrong!)
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To: Swordmaker
OMG.....lol....lololol
106 posted on 02/12/2005 6:24:26 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny (“I know a great deal about the Middle East because I’ve been raising Arabian horses" Patrick Swazey)
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To: longjack
For your own kids in school, if the school district has internet filters up, and the teachers have good supervision practices and are versed in web research tactics, they will almost be guaranteed to improve in achievement, especially in the research based subjects, like geography, for example.

I can tell you that the internet has mildly embellished my daughter's education. It has made research faster and easier on occasion. She is a straight A student, top of her class in a high school that has the highest SAT's in the state. But her accomplishments are not dependent on computers or the internet. She is a classroom note taker, late night studier, hard worker, and practical approacher of her schoolwork. Most of her computer time is spent instant-messaging or using MS Word.

My son is an A-B student who hardly ever uses the internet. He knows how to because of my wife and me. I'm sorry but the computer does not greatly influence the accomplishments of my children.

107 posted on 02/12/2005 6:31:35 PM PST by groanup (http://www.fairtax.org)
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To: unixfox
What they don't tell us is how much the maintenance is gonna cost em. That's what Apple is banking

That and the constant software upgrades and the inevitable obsolescence of everything hi tech. I had a long conversation with a Cobb County school teacher. She was outraged over the whole thing. They never consulted the teachers on this at all. She thinks it is a disaster.

108 posted on 02/12/2005 6:37:18 PM PST by groanup (http://www.fairtax.org)
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To: groanup
I used Power Point. I learned how to use it by opening it up and firing away. It is simple. I could teach the average high school student how to use it in ten minutes.

Go ahead. Show him templates, transitions, slide masters, animations, photo import, movie import, and how to do technical drawings in 10 minutes. And then lets do some overlays which show the light paths through a 12-channel distance measuring interferometer.

109 posted on 02/12/2005 8:40:36 PM PST by CurlyDave
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To: groanup

Within a month the number of laptops crippled with spyware and viruses will overwhelm the County's IT department.


110 posted on 02/12/2005 8:43:35 PM PST by Rebelbase (Who is General Chat?)
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To: unixfox

Yep. See #110.


111 posted on 02/12/2005 8:44:07 PM PST by Rebelbase (Who is General Chat?)
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To: unixfox
What they don't tell us is how much the maintenance is gonna cost em. That's what Apple is banking

Uh, read the article... maintenence is included in the contract amount... probably what makes the difference in the $350 per student cost of the computer and the $271 price quoted. That is for the computer without the Microsoft products... now add that stuff in at probably about $150 per for MS Office.

112 posted on 02/12/2005 11:15:41 PM PST by Swordmaker (Tagline now open, please ring bell.)
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To: Rebelbase
Within a month the number of laptops crippled with spyware and viruses will overwhelm the County's IT department.

If the experience of the last four years of OSX is any indicator, the number of student's laptops crippled by spyware and viruses will be ZERO.

113 posted on 02/12/2005 11:18:59 PM PST by Swordmaker (Tagline now open, please ring bell.)
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To: Swordmaker

True, but prepare to duck, because you're about to get hit with the 'market share' argument.

= )


114 posted on 02/13/2005 6:04:41 AM PST by Mr. Thorne ("But iron, cold iron, shall be master of them all..." Kipling)
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To: Crawdad

I live in Cobb also. I think the schools and the kids are a whole lot better off than in Dekalb or Fulton. I don't think the local politicians are any less corrupt, though. I still remember the prisoner who was on a work-release which put him in Fulton jail to do a rap-video shoot.


115 posted on 02/13/2005 6:17:13 AM PST by junaid
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To: Swordmaker
The vast majority of MAc software is price competitive with PC software.

Hmmmmmm. Let's see.

Mac OS V 10.3 ~$180-200 plus 4 upgrades in the last 3 years.

Windows XP ~$30-90

Case closed.

116 posted on 02/13/2005 11:57:52 AM PST by Rockitz (After all these years, it's still rocket science.)
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To: Rockitz
Mac OS V 10.3 ~$180-200... Windows XP ~$30-90

1) MacOS 10.3 comes with the Mac Mini at 499$ I very much doubt the hardware for the mini was only 299$. Now the 30-90$ you were quoting is the OEM cost, to go to comp USA and buy a copy of WinXP professional for 299$ (or the really underpowered home edition for 99$). After you buy your Windows OS dont forget to go pick up a 50$ virus suite, and some firewall software, want decent CD/DVD burning software go shell out for that as well. Overall OSX provides a good bang for the buck.

plus 4 upgrades in the last 3 years.

Aww dont be so sad that longhorn just keeps getting pushed further and further back. Look 10.1 runs just fine and Apple still releases security upgrades for it, just because Apple has a living system that gets better from one year to the next does not mean that the one my mother got in 2001, or the one my wife got in 2003 does not work fine today.

117 posted on 02/13/2005 7:59:35 PM PST by N3WBI3
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To: Rockitz
Hmmmmmm. Let's see.
Mac OS V 10.3 ~$180-200 plus 4 upgrades in the last 3 years.
Windows XP ~$30-90
Case closed.

Hmmmmmmm. Let's REALLY see with the actual facts instead of prices you made up!

In the Mac world

Mac latest version OSX OEM free with any Mac purchase.

Mac OSX.3, retail price = $129

Mac OSX.3 five license "Family Pack", retail price = $199.99 or $40 per computer.

Upgrades

Upgrades from X.0 to X.1 = free!

Upgrades from X.1.0 to X.1.6 = free!

Upgrades from X.1 to X.2 = $129

Upgrades from X.2.0 to X.2.8 = free!

Upgrades from X.2 to X.3 = $129

Upgrades from X.3.0 to X.2.8 = free!

Each .1 step includes MAJOR software upgrades and NEW applications easily worth the $129. Each .x.1 step includes security, speed, and application enhancements. That's 25 upgrades of whoch only two were charged for.

In the PC Windows world

Windows XP Professional OEM suggested retail $199.99

Windows XP Professional OEM street price $129.99 - $159.99

Windows XP Professional suggested retail $299.99

Windows XP Professional Upgrade suggested retail $209.99

Windows XP Home Edition suggested retail $199.99

Windows XP Home Edition OEM suggested retail $129.99

Windows XP Home Edition OEM street price $59.99 to $79.95

Incremental upgrades = free!

CASE CLOSED

118 posted on 02/13/2005 10:55:50 PM PST by Swordmaker (Tagline now open, please ring bell.)
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To: dennisw
I'm quite happy with my 12" iBook and if I bought another one or a Powerbook, I'd consider a 12" screen. It's a lot more portable that way.
119 posted on 02/14/2005 9:23:23 AM PST by Question_Assumptions
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To: Swordmaker

You're the one that's made up prices, but you can have the last word on that one. It doesn't really matter, since the Mac is dead at most real companies.


120 posted on 02/16/2005 11:16:14 PM PST by Rockitz (After all these years, it's still rocket science.)
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