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Ukraine: Yushchenko Has Strong Words For Would-Be Separatists In Eastern Ukraine
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Posted on 02/11/2005 1:28:43 PM PST by anonymoussierra

http://www.rferl.org/featuresarticle/2005/2/43A54F60-D72A-4FF6-A8F2-5C2B2434834D.html

Ukrainian President Viktor Yushchenko has threatened to take legal action against politicians in eastern Ukraine who are calling for the Russian-speaking part of the country to secede. Yushchenko, speaking yesterday in the eastern city of Donetsk, said all of the country is Ukrainian and that those supporting separatism are "sick." Yushchenko also demanded an end to corruption, the “shadow” economy and business clans.

Prague, 11 February 2005 (RFE/RL) -- Ukrainian President Viktor Yushchenko issued a stern warning to politicians in Ukraine's industrial east yesterday: Give up any idea of splitting from the rest of the country, or get ready for a fight.

The main purpose of the president's trip was to present the new regional governor, Vadim Chuprun. But Yushchenko did more than that.

On a visit to the mainly Russian-speaking city of Donetsk, he described pro-separatism politicians as "sick" and said they would answer in court for what he called "the nonsense they have been spreading."

The Ukrainian leader also called for an end to corruption, business clans and the shadowy economic activities characteristic of that part of the country.

"I do not want to see corrupt authorities," he said. "I do not want to know the price for [obtaining the position of] Donetsk regional police chief because nobody will pay that price. There will be a police chief who will serve several million people here, people who are currently dispirited."

Donetsk and other the Russian-speaking parts of eastern Ukraine broadly backed Yushchenko's pro-Russian opponent Viktor Yanukovych in the presidential contest late last year. Several Russian-speaking regions threatened in December to organize a referendum on partition if Yushchenko became president, but later backed down.

Serhiy Harmash is publisher of "Ostrov," an independent Internet magazine in Donetsk. He tells RFE/RL that local officials were surprised by the harsh tone of Yushchenko's two-hour address.

"The local elite was shocked. Everybody hoped that the president, as a politician, would come to seek some kind of compromise with Donetsk," Harmash says. "But it was just the opposite -- Yushchenko came not to look for a compromise but to put forward his own conditions."

But, Harmash says, such tough tactics might just work. He said the officials attending Yushchenko's speech appeared intimidated by his threat that they would no longer be able to dictate their own rules to the rest of the country

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During the meeting, Yushchenko also openly questioned the legality of a number of privatization deals in the Donetsk region, and indicated that if local business clans refuse to answer to Kyiv, they might be stripped of both their power and their money.

Harmash says Yushchenko left the local functionaries with few options.

"Yushchenko stated very clearly, and even said openly, that he would take strong measures to prevent any kind of separatism," Harmash says. "And not only separatism, but also any moves toward the federalization [of Ukraine]. Legal actions will be taken against such moves. So no one is going to dare encourage separatist feelings. Appealing to coal miners will also not work. You have some grounds for doing something like that. The president said yesterday that the money the state allocates for coal miners find its way into the pockets of local mining officials. So, [Yushchenko]] has his own capacity for appealing to coal miners."

Oleksandr Lytvynenko, an analyst with the Rozumkov Center, an independent think thank in Kyiv, agrees that the general population in eastern Ukraine is tired of the political dealings of local officials. He says there is no inherent civil conflict between eastern Ukraine and Kyiv. Recent tensions, he says, are only a result of the presidential election.

"What we have is not a civil conflict; just elections. The new president (Yushchenko) was elected, and the elections were recognized as being legitimate," Lytvynenko says. "And it is difficult to believe that supporters of former [candidate] Yanukovych and even his compatriots from Donetsk would choose to stay in the opposition only on principle."

Even Yanukovich himself, Lytvynenko says, has recently taken a more conciliatory attitude toward Yushchenko, and has suggested he is willing to cooperate with the new administration.


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KEYWORDS: russiafirstlovefest; ukraine; yushchenko
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To: Happy2BMe; A. Pole; GarySpFc; FormerLib; The_Reader_David; Poohbah
Much rather have Yushchenko where necessary 'appoint' at least until the time the KGB moles are removed from the power blocks.

You mean those who don't agree with his rule, like say opposition parties. So when he has necessarly appointed "yes" men then there will be "democracy"?

Well I guess it's better then the Saakashvili method of closing 7 media outlets and most likely having his prime minister "accidently" poisoned, when Zhahnia openly opposed Sak. on his policies. Now Sak. has a good yes man in power and not the "father" of his revolution.

21 posted on 02/12/2005 12:04:03 PM PST by jb6 (Truth = Christ)
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To: GarySpFc
Once again you are ignoring the facts. The exit polls were "all" taken in Yushchenko territory, which would be similiar to taking exit polls for the American election in Boston. Yushchenko was predicted to win the final election by 20+ points, but with all the negativity against Yanukovich he only won by 5 points. It's clear to me the second election was likely the right results, but then you do not care about right and wrong

Absolutly false statments, firstly you dont have any proofs that polls were taken only from Yuschenko’s territory. Secondary your numbers you got from the sky I think. Yuschenko 52% Yanukovich 44% I also don’t remember polls where he would have advantage around 20%. Let’s face with reality…
22 posted on 02/12/2005 12:06:01 PM PST by Lukasz (Terra Polonia Semper Fidelis!)
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To: GarySpFc

Oh please, "Democrats on this list?" How about Russian apologists that are upset that their cabana-boy failed to steal the election?


23 posted on 02/12/2005 12:08:56 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: jb6
We will see if Yushchenko turns to the 'dark side.'

I don't think he will.

24 posted on 02/12/2005 12:17:20 PM PST by Happy2BMe (Long ago and far, far away there once was a shining land they called "America" . . .)
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To: Happy2BMe; jb6

basicly Yuschenko started complaining because Yuzh Mash (aviation corp) said that due to change in the direction of politics ergo Ukraine and Europe becoming closer in ecconomic aspects they would have to move their production to Russia (an employment of about 30,000). Just read it today. Yuschenko calls this separatism while the owner of Yuzh Mash said that it wouldn't be ecconomicly feasable to operate in Ukraine if they start instituting European ecconomic facilitations.

The reality is this is about money pure and simple home industry vs foreign industry. Thats what it boils down to at heart.


25 posted on 02/12/2005 2:46:23 PM PST by eluminate
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To: eluminate

Thanks for that inside info.


26 posted on 02/12/2005 2:59:51 PM PST by Happy2BMe (Long ago and far, far away there once was a shining land they called "America" . . .)
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To: eluminate

Several German companines have moved operations from Czech and other eastern European countries to Russia, since those came up for EU membership. If that alone doesn't tell you something is seriously wrong with the EU, what the heck ever will?


27 posted on 02/12/2005 4:45:35 PM PST by jb6 (Truth = Christ)
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To: Destro; A. Pole; MarMema; YoungCorps; OldCorps; FairOpinion; eluminate; FormerLib; Honorary Serb; ..

bump


28 posted on 02/12/2005 4:48:41 PM PST by jb6 (Truth = Christ)
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To: PhilDragoo; MeekOneGOP; lizol; Lukasz; Destro; jb6; All

Good Morning/Witam this is dance real dance in good way. dance is dance. politics is dance one is one two is two when is three?Putin?thank you/No dobra trzym sie


29 posted on 02/13/2005 1:39:36 AM PST by anonymoussierra (Quo Vadis Domine? Quo Vadis? Thank you)
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To: warsaw44; Drew68; Quinotto; DTA; Ravi; bummerdude; twinself; dakine; eddiespaghetti; PhilDragoo; ...
Eastern European ping list


FRmail me to be added or removed from this Eastern European ping list

30 posted on 02/13/2005 3:46:55 AM PST by lizol (.)
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To: PhilDragoo; MeekOneGOP

"In the continued srutiny Ukraine is getting any overt violent act by Yuschenko enemies would be extremely foolish."Thank you "PhilDragoo"I do not want problem/war in Ukraine this will not be good You do know why Putin is not happy again again again time do show who is who what is what
"Shall we dance"Thank you


31 posted on 02/13/2005 6:47:31 AM PST by anonymoussierra (Quo Vadis Domine? Quo Vadis? Thank you)
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To: Lukasz
Absolutly false statments, firstly you dont have any proofs that polls were taken only from Yuschenko’s territory. Secondary your numbers you got from the sky I think. Yuschenko 52% Yanukovich 44% I also don’t remember polls where he would have advantage around 20%. Let’s face with reality…
Firstly, I am willing to admit I was wrong when I said the margin was 5%. It was actually 7.8%, big deal.
Secondly, the Yushchenko clearly stated they would win by over 20% in a fair election. No, I cannot bring up the statements without spending time doing a search.
Thirdly, so were are my false statements? Note plural.
Fourthly, you clearly were wrong about Yushchenko not allowing freedom of speech, but were not man enough to admit it.
Fifthly, where are the Russian tanks and Spetsnaz who your side reported were in Kiev? Does a cat have your tongue?
32 posted on 02/13/2005 9:17:47 AM PST by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: GarySpFc

It will be interesting to see how many Russian oligarchs will be influencing the events in Ukraine since Yushenko has appointed Nemtsov as a consultant. I used to be a big fan of Nemtsov, but lately he's proved to be a tool of Russian oligarchs.


33 posted on 02/14/2005 8:45:53 PM PST by koba37
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To: 7.62 x 51mm
Look forward to the Greater Democratic Republic of Western Ukraine and the eastern bit whatever Putin ends up calling it.

It's beginning to look like the New Europe is going to look like the Old Europe circa 1916. Poland will absorb Lithuania, the Eastern Ukraine and Belarus.

The old Polish empire returns. How nostalgic. Hail the Duchy of Poland, Hail Taras Bulba, Hail Catherine the Great!
34 posted on 03/01/2005 12:03:03 AM PST by beaver fever
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