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The Underground Labor Force Is rising to the Surface
Bear Stearns, Saveourlicense.com PDF ^ | Jan 3, 2005 | Robert Justich, and Betth Ng, DVA

Posted on 02/11/2005 10:01:52 AM PST by television is just wrong

Bear Stearns Says Government Vastly Underestimates Size And Cost Of Illegal Immigration (courtesy of John & Ken) The Wall Street investment firm Bear Stearns has published a new report, “The Underground Labor Force is Rising to the Surface,” which claims that the illegal alien population is double the official government estimates. According to Bear Stearns analysts, Robert Justich and Betty Ng, the illegal alien population of the U.S. is about 20 million - roughly the population of New York State. The report asserts that there are between 12 and 15 million jobs in the U.S. currently held by illegal aliens, or about 8 percent of the work force. Moreover, between 4 and 6 million jobs have shifted to the underground economy since 1990. These are not “jobs Americans won’t do,” but rather jobs Americans used to do. “The United States is simply hooked on cheap, illegal workers and deferring the costs of providing public services to these quasi-American,” conclude Justich and Ng. Read the report here (.pdf file).

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: aliens; illegalimmigration; immigration; labor; undergroundeconomy
What we probably have all known, just confirmed.
1 posted on 02/11/2005 10:01:53 AM PST by television is just wrong
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To: television is just wrong

They are jobs Americans "won't" do because we "can't" do them because they've been given to an off-the-books worker. An illegal, if you will.


2 posted on 02/11/2005 10:05:07 AM PST by johnb838 (Evolution is Paganizm.)
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To: television is just wrong

They need to go after those hiring these people. I know that's stating the obvious, but it's not obvious enough for our government.


3 posted on 02/11/2005 10:06:37 AM PST by conservative cat
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To: television is just wrong
The whole line should be "Jobs Americans won't do as cheaply as an illegal."

The way they chop it off at the end is akin to the way the rat's talk about A Woman's Right To Choose... (choose what?).

4 posted on 02/11/2005 10:07:12 AM PST by johnb838 (Evolution is Paganizm.)
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To: conservative cat
They need to go after those hiring these people. I know that's stating the obvious, but it's not obvious enough for our government.

Toward the end of the Clinton admin they actually instituted a regulation that if someone hires an illegal alien and then discovers they are illegal and fires them for that reason, it is an illegal form of "discrimination in hiring."

I kid you not!

5 posted on 02/11/2005 10:08:13 AM PST by Phantom Lord (Advantages are taken, not handed out)
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To: television is just wrong
So how many of these jobs are being paid above the minimum wage? I was watching a special on this and the employers said they knew many of them were illegal but they don't ask if they're illegal and just put them through the system with their fake licenses and social security card.
6 posted on 02/11/2005 10:13:13 AM PST by bahblahbah
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To: bahblahbah

Most of them are below minimum wage, and because of the people being illegal, the employers will sometimes not even pay the contracted wage, BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE TO.


7 posted on 02/11/2005 10:16:35 AM PST by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens...)
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To: Phantom Lord
Toward the end of the Clinton admin

Enough said. Disgusting.

8 posted on 02/11/2005 10:18:32 AM PST by conservative cat
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To: ProgressAndSecurity

That is a good idea. However, the entire legislative arm of the government is afraid of Vincente Fox.


10 posted on 02/11/2005 10:21:27 AM PST by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens...)
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To: johnb838

I know.


11 posted on 02/11/2005 10:22:43 AM PST by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens...)
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To: gubamyster

A "Doesn't this just boil your gizzard?" ping.


12 posted on 02/11/2005 10:27:29 AM PST by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: television is just wrong

The numbers are about right, to my observation.


13 posted on 02/11/2005 10:27:35 AM PST by March I up
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Of course this adds votes to liberals. Because most of the illegals are in liberal states like California, New York and Ill. They are counted as residents and apportionment gives more seats to those states. Because of this some esitmate there are as many as 5 seats wrongly distributed.


14 posted on 02/11/2005 10:51:56 AM PST by Jack Black
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"Most of them are below minimum wage, and because of the people being illegal, the employers will sometimes not even pay the contracted wage, BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE TO."

Exactly! But the stupid thing is, if you give them amnesty (as GWB is doing whether that's what he calls it or not) you make them 'legal' in a way - then they won't have any reason to accept the lower pay that makes them desirable to employers. However, it will then be impossible to get rid of them, as they will be eligible for welfare and all the other goodies that now create "Americans who won't do the jobs they used to do." THEN we'll have all the social and economic problems, without ANY of the so-called benefits of hiring people 'under the table.' Very short-sighted.


15 posted on 02/11/2005 11:28:48 AM PST by Shazolene
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To: television is just wrong
Most of them are below minimum wage, and because of the people being illegal, the employers will sometimes not even pay the contracted wage, BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE TO.

No white farmer or labor contractor would DARE expose themselves to the legal locusts that swarm in states like CA. Whether in the CA fields or the sweatshops in NYC it is Mexican (and Chinese etc.) business owners and contractors that victimize their own.

16 posted on 02/11/2005 11:34:28 AM PST by Poincare
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To: Shazolene

Also, something to remember when a contractor brings illegal alien help to work on your home. YOU CAN BE SUED FOR INJURIES ON THE JOB. My sister has had this happen to her now TWICE. There is a down side to this cheap labor thing.


17 posted on 02/11/2005 11:37:04 AM PST by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens...)
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To: Poincare

Hmm, I'm not sure and don't have statistics on that, but you may be right.


18 posted on 02/11/2005 11:49:41 AM PST by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens...)
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