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Teacher Charged With Having Sex With 13-Year-Old Student
AP ^ | Feb. 9, 2005

Posted on 02/11/2005 9:43:07 AM PST by robowombat

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To: HitmanNY

I agree.

An adult woman who has sex with a thirteen year old boy is nothing more than a pedophile. And, that thirteen year old boy will be traumitized in some way or another, although it may take years to show up.

I have a thirteen year old son. He is not ready for sex and if one of his teachers seduced him I would be ready to kill. It's sick, and the freepers who are whooping about it should be ashamed of themselves.


281 posted on 02/14/2005 1:25:03 PM PST by gingerky
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To: jes

It's not a huge feat for a male to have strong negative feelings about a female personally, and still covet her carnally, yes. Sometimes very powerfully.

Yes, males and females think very differently in these matters. Each sides inability (or unwillingness) to see that the two sides look at things differently is a major obstacle to good communication between the sexes. It's too easy to be taken aback, 'offended,' disgusted, or otherwise pass judgment.

A shame.


282 posted on 02/14/2005 1:26:24 PM PST by HitmanLV
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To: gingerky

I meant to respond to cyborg, not hitman.


283 posted on 02/14/2005 1:36:06 PM PST by gingerky
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To: Fishrrman
.... the teen's best friend said.

As the article goes on to state, this 13 year old boy's best friend happens to be nineteen. If that doesn't tell you how screwed up this kid is already, nothing does. What well adjusted thirteen year old has a nineteen year old as his best friend? " And after this incident with the teacher ,it will only get worse but we probably won't hear about it.

284 posted on 02/14/2005 1:44:05 PM PST by Cagey
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To: Idisarthur
"I haven't had a conversation with you."

Hmmm... 10 lame insult attempts back to back and a picture of a worm. We finally agree.

285 posted on 02/14/2005 1:53:19 PM PST by elfman2
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To: elfman2
"10 lame insult attempts"

Sorry, but did I offend you, did I approach you offensively?

What started this was I was merely being descriptive.

I described you as being digusting for your apparent approval of a "Hot" pedophile sexually abusing, scarring and damaging a developing boy.

I then described you as a troll and you confessed to being so when you said you were being Goofy.

You would have done the same thing to a troll. And any outside observer would agree.

You then presumed that I didn't know what a hyperlink was and I accepted that false claim. I didn't take offense. Anyhow.

Sorry, you win.

Cheers.
286 posted on 02/14/2005 7:44:07 PM PST by Idisarthur
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To: nuffsenuff

Ya....these female teacher relationships always turn out great.

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When I was a young man, just prior to the seventh grade, a student-teacher relationship with my grade school music instructor developed into a sexual affair lasting until I was a freshman in high school.  I remember, at the time, how wonderful I thought it to be; afternoons after school and weekends of learning new experiences and feelings - growing into a man.

 She had said that she was in love with me and, to this day, I believe that was true.  I suppose I loved her too or; as much as I could at that age.

 One day, during 7th grade, she took me aside and explained that she had missed her period and I was faced with the cascading fear of becoming a father in grade school.  It was the first emotional blow of my life and I’ll never forget it.  I remember even the weather that day.  My fear seems bizarre to me now because, then,  I could barely conceptualized what pregnancy was and had no way of understanding the nightmarish problem of how she could sneak the money for an abortion out of her families checking account without her husband finding out.   I didn’t even know how enraged my parents and others would be if I did become the father of one of her children;  though I suspected the whole situation was not ideal.  To our relief  her “pregnancy” turned out to be a cyst blocking one of her ovaries and our physical relationship continued on and we never looked back.

 Yet, for all the times I enjoyed with her and how much, in one way, they meant to me,  in my adulthood  I began to take stock of the damage which was done:  I never developed the skills of young romance and my ability to relate to girls my age was completely destroyed.  I became so inhibited that, even in my early twenties, I could barely speak to women.  I never went on dates or even to my prom. Years after the relationship ended I told my parents about it and they finally understood why I had sliced my wrists open one night when I was 15.  I lived through that but, sometimes I wonder what the real number of teenagers who don’t make it is.  All I really gained from our affair was the knowledge of a man while I awkwardly lived in the world of children.

 I wouldn’t have thought to relate this story to you as I feel that I’ve made peace with my experience and my life has moved on, however,  all day today—on the radio, in the paper, and through the unaware gossip of my co-workers—I’ve heard all sorts of opinions of the LeTourneau affair and I’ve become flooded with the memories of my childhood. With the definitive hand of having been there I’d like to make something clear to everyone:  Mary LeTourneau is a pedophile.  There’s nothing more to it.  She violated her duty as a teacher and adult to protect children from the graveness of the world. What her student may have learned with girls his age is one thing but, she inflicted permanent damage on a boy who shouldn’t have been with a woman until he was a man.  She needs to be put in jail just as any man would be if he manipulated a young girl into bed.

 Over the years it’s been interesting to me that the 3 or 4 male friends I’ve told this story to all thought it was a dream come true but, my mother and the few women I’ve told were, each one, enraged and revulsed by it.  I’ve wondered why that is but I’ve never been able to figure the answer.  I know though,  the women’s reaction has been the mature and proper one.

  I believe the pain molested boys feel may be fundamentally different from that of  molested girls but, one should not convince oneself that it is any less because boys don’t, or culturally shouldn’t, show it.  No one should convince themselves for one moment that this boy will live a better or unscarred life from this pedophilic relationship.

 There is an irony of how I feel about my experience though – even now when I think about it –  I don’t know if I could have sent the woman who molested me to jail.  It hurt to be with her but,  it would have hurt to lose her too.  Life is strange that way.

 I don’t feel any better about today Susan but, thanks for reading.

287 posted on 02/14/2005 7:48:51 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny (“I know a great deal about the Middle East because I’ve been raising Arabian horses" Patrick Swazey)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

very interesting... I wish I could find something more profound to say but I'm utterly speechless.


288 posted on 02/14/2005 7:52:32 PM PST by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: gingerky; elfman2
"I have a thirteen year old son. He is not ready for sex and if one of his teachers seduced him I would be ready to kill. It's sick, and the freepers who are whooping about it should be ashamed of themselves."

Sexual Predators and Pedophiles

Beauty is relative - check out all these "Hot" teachers of children./sarcasm

I pray that Elfmans wonderful wife and child never encounters one of these degenerate.

Let's have fun here at FreeRep but not over this subject.
289 posted on 02/14/2005 7:59:34 PM PST by Idisarthur
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To: A.A. Cunningham
"You think pedophiles are "hot"? You're no different than those yahoos who get excited anytime they see that pedophile Michael Jackson. Get some help."

Yes, I think she's hot, no I don't think Michael is, and I think that anyone who can't see the obvious differences between the two is the one in need of help.

Thinking that she's hot doesn't mean that I approve of what she did anymore than my thinking that Michael is sick generates any sympathy from me should he be found guilty of pedophilia.

290 posted on 02/14/2005 7:59:58 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: Idisarthur
"Sorry, but did I offend you"

Oh please, you’re obsessed with arguing. See my second post. It’s likely driven your friends away so you’re here. See my first post. Your “insults” are too ridiculous to be offensive and to juvenile and predictable to be entertaining. There’s no “meat” in anything I’ve read from you, just anger, so I stopped at that sentence. I don’t argue with barking dogs.

291 posted on 02/15/2005 5:59:58 AM PST by elfman2
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To: Psycho_Bunny

Thank you for sharing your life experience, i am very sorry for what you had to go through and in some small way i can relate, i will get to that in a minute. Last night we saw a bit on one of the news channels about the Tenn. case and i made a negative comment and the men in my house( husband two adult sons, my other two are in the service) all said that would have been there dream at age 13. Are all men programed genetically to say this? As a young girl of nine, with a step father( a walking time bomb) my parents divorced when i was a infant, this man could have been the nurturing male i needed but he was an enraged pervert instead. The hole is very deep and wide inside me and it can never be filled. I know , who i am and was, was altered those years ago. I married a great man, had three sons and one daughter, but they only know part of me, i dont think anyone , even myself will know all of me...


292 posted on 02/15/2005 6:02:56 AM PST by JudiL ((Mom of two that are proudly serving our country))
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To: Luis Gonzalez

Realistically she has to be prosecuted so that any demented woman can’t diddle little boys for amusement. I don’t think a “really hot” defense can be written into the law.

But it’s too bad, because it’s in all probability one of those one in a million crimes that only adds to the happiness of the victim, at least it would have before this became a media circus.


293 posted on 02/15/2005 6:07:40 AM PST by elfman2
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To: HitmanNY

If your parties are all about sex jokes, yes I'd be a dud.

I'm also a dud for drinking "parties". They're for boring people who don't know how to have fun and have to dull their senses.

You don't know squat about me. Actually I'm a party person by nature. I LOVE music and dancing and games.


AGAIN, BOTTOM LINE: IT'S RUDE. Not to mention CRUDE.


Raise your standards and maybe society as a whole would be better.


294 posted on 02/15/2005 6:25:08 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: jes

"Kids love lots to do lots of things they should not do."



Hence my mention of the chocolate example.

Just cuz they like it doesn't mean it's good - or "OK" - for them.


295 posted on 02/15/2005 6:27:46 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: elfman2
>>"Oh please, you’re obsessed with arguing."
>>"It’s likely driven your friends away so you’re here."

I come here to exchange ideas not argue. Notice that I often exit the forum at 5pm and I'm gone on the weekends. As I went back to get your old post (see below) I noticed that you on the other hand posted this past Saturday and Sunday. Talk about no friends.

>>"Your “insults” are too ridiculous to be offensive and to juvenile and predictable to be entertaining."

That would be just like your initial statement on this thread, right?.

>>"Normally I’d be against a 25 year old woman having sex with a 13 year old boy, but when the woman is that hot, there’s got to be an exception."

You merely rehashed the fecal rhetoric of other morally depraved schm*cks here on FreeReep. Juvenile and predictable. Great behavior for someone who is 41 - Whoa, you're old.
296 posted on 02/15/2005 10:44:09 AM PST by Idisarthur
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