Posted on 02/11/2005 8:11:39 AM PST by Pikamax
Clouds gather over Kyoto climate pact
By Robin Pomeroy
ROME (Reuters) - Defying repeated premature reports of its death, the Kyoto Protocol will come into force in a few days. But doubts are already growing over the long-term future of the world's most ambitious environmental agreement.
As developed countries struggle to meet their greenhouse gas reduction targets by the treaty's "first commitment period" of 2008-12, they also have to start discussing what happens next.
"The nay-sayers have all said Kyoto will never go into force, now they have been proven wrong," said climate campaigner Steve Sawyer of Greenpeace. "Now what they are saying is there will never be a second period."
Even before the United States, which produces a quarter of the man-made emissions blamed for causing global warming, pulled out, it was clear that Kyoto's aim to reduce greenhouse gas output by 5.2 percent of 1990 levels was just a first step.
Scientists say an emissions cut of at least 60 percent is needed to prevent catastrophic impacts of climate change this century, including rising sea levels, the spread of deserts and even worse weather-related disasters.
Under Kyoto, countries should start this year talking about a second commitment under which they accept bigger cuts.
Doubts that this would definitely happen emerged at the last global climate change meeting in December when Italy's environment minister broke ranks with the rest of the European Union and said a second round of binding targets was unlikely.
"After (2012) it is unthinkable to go ahead without the United States, China and India," Altero Matteoli said.
Developing countries were exempt from targets in the first commitment period.
"Seeing as these countries do not wish to talk about binding agreements, we must proceed with voluntary accords, bilateral pacts and commercial partnerships," Matteoli said.
RESULTS NEEDED
This week the European Commission poured more cold water on the EU's determination to keep Kyoto going post-2012 in the face of reluctance elsewhere in the world.
"The reduction commitments that the EU would be willing to take under such a regime should depend on the level and type of participation of other major emitters," it said.
Europe's influence on climate change policy will depend on its ability to live up to its own targets. The 15 EU countries that signed up en bloc have to reduce emissions by 8 percent of 1990 levels but in 2002 were only 2.9 percent below.
Some EU countries are really struggling. Spain's emissions are up 40 percent, way above its limit of a 15 percent increase.
"If Europe meets its target it will strengthen the hand of people pushing for binding emissions reductions," said Richard Tarasofsky of the London-based think-tank Chatham House.
"If that doesn't happen ... other countries will lose faith in the multilateral approach to climate change."
Even if the EU, Japan and Canada make it, their good example alone may not be enough to persuade the United States or developing countries to take on targets post-2012. But they may get involved in emissions cuts outside Kyoto, analysts say.
"There are a number of avenues which are quite distinct that are complementary to or separate from the Kyoto process," said Jonathan Pershing of U.S. think-tank World Resources Institute.
U.S. ACTS
California and northeastern states already have policies on cutting carbon dioxide, which could lead to pressure from companies to link U.S. trading systems with other countries to improve liquidity, Pershing said.
Even the green groups, which continue to insist on binding targets that are Kyoto's core, say there is room for other approaches to combat climate change.
Greenpeace's Sawyer envisions Kyoto continuing after 2012, with newer, tougher targets and some new countries like Mexico and South Korea joining.
Alongside that would be global efforts to help developing countries "decarbonise" as their economies grow by promoting cleaner energy and reducing deforestation and a third track to help poor countries cope with climate-related disasters.
"Whether this is formally within the UNFCCC (the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change which underpins Kyoto) remains to be seen," said Sawyer.
Even if Kyoto were to fizzle out in 2012, it will have a lasting impact on the world's approach to climate change.
"In Europe there is a clear view that there are going to be binding constraints with or without Kyoto," said Dirk Forrister, managing director of emissions trading firm Natsource Europe.
If the EU's emissions trading system means Europe can reach its targets without ruining its economy, Europe may be able to persuade the world to keep Kyoto going after 2012.
Reuters
"Clouds gather over Kyoto climate pact"
Perfectly headlined.
Has to keep his little fifedom going no matter what.
If the EU's emissions trading system means Europe can reach its targets without ruining its economy...
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No problem for the EU chicken-little greenies. THEY HAVE NO ECONOMY TO RUIN!!!
Kyoto is not about reducing polution. It's about transfering money from Capitalists to Socialists.
Kyoto needs to dissipate!
Either that, or we have to elect a Democrat as president and all the problems will go away for 4 years.
Useless hypocrites, and know nothing alarmists.
Kyoto is not about reducing polution. It's about transfering money from Capitalists to Socialists.Just as Greenpeace cares much less about protecting the environment than it does about ruining economic prosperity.
I thought the same thing. They have no economy. This will make growth even worse or negative.
But just like their deficit targets, they will all cheat. Spain up 40%. Yep. All this with their 18% VAT and 6$ gas.
They could have had a treaty that meant something, if they'd wanted one. Instead, they decided to go forward without the US, China and India, and now they themselves are going to violate the treaty with impunity.
They know perfectly well that the goals of the treaty are unattainable. But it never was a "scientific" matter anyway. It's a political matter. They plan to get their brownie points from the Greens by saying, "Well, we tried."
Then they can put all the blame on the United States for their failure, much as the hippies blamed the entire failure of the Vietnam war on Nixon, even though the whole mess was engineered by Kennedy and Johnson. That way, they get their cake and eat it and they can use us as their scapegoat.
By the way, the U. S. didn't pull out of this treaty, as Reuters pretends. We never came near signing it. 95% of the Senate voted against it, but clinton and gore delayed presenting it for ratification so they, too, could have their political cake and eat it. Hypocrites all.
This is the one thing it's not.
But just like their deficit targets, they will all cheat. Spain up 40%. Yep. All this with their 18% VAT and 6$ gas.
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Yes, the EU IS IN NO WAY, an economic model FOR ANYTHING!!! I just love socialism and its "Midas touch".
And if we cut emissions by X%, a pesky volcano will blow its lid somewhere and ruin it. Then they will call for negative emissions...
"Scientists say an emissions cut of at least 60 percent is needed to prevent catastrophic impacts of climate change this century, including rising sea levels, the spread of deserts and even worse weather-related disasters."
These "scientists" are out of a job if they can't convince us that the end of the world is at hand. We've had global warming since before the great lakes. I'm all for it, there'll still be places to ski and play in the snow for those of us who enjoy cold weather.
Exactly, income redistribution on a worldwide scale.
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