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Texas Longhorn
mine ^ | February 11, 2005 | Ilija Pavlovich PhD

Posted on 02/11/2005 7:18:12 AM PST by ILL

Texas longhorn

If you ever have to “grab a bull by the horns” try a Texas longhorn. Considering that my first post was critical of SF Chronicle's depiction of USMC General Mattis – but somehow got into a vanity section – I wouldn’t be surprised that this too gets reclassified the same way. According to some members here, I invited the Wrath of Gods upon myself on account of:

a) being new – not knowing the ropes

b) having posted a vanity as my first article

c) me being a pink, pro-communist, liberal threat to security of the United States because my name contains too many consonants

d) In my naiveté I posted my real name and a degree which most plumbers and cab drivers consider offensive, and would prefer I dropped out of high school.

Something else came to my mind watching the Oliver Stone (BOOOO! – scared ya’, didn’t I?) movie JFK, last night. OK cat lovers, donkey posters get your ammo out, this is gonna be your field day, the more pictures of animals the better. Since films ordinarily fall into the category of culture I think this is the appropriate placement for this sarcastic semi-grievance.

Meanwhile back at the ranch: JFK (BOO! Scared you again) the movie revolves around this New Orleans District attorney Jim Garrison – a true life character. By all accounts the director (Stone) and this Garrison were more pink than pink, and therefore enemies to certain forums that enjoy posting pictures of domestic animals. But something unexpected happened. This Garrison (as pink as you want to make him) took the bull by the horns and strongly fought for what he believed. Contrary to the general perception that he may have been a “pinko” in his real life, I see, his fight, his irreverence, his stubbornness, his strong moral adherence to protecting the Laws of our country, his clash with the FBI, as the very essence of a good radical warrior who just happens to be on the wrong side of the fence (providing I ever grant anybody to put up a fence between me and my country). I would want that man on my side, no matter what side I choose to be on. All his qualities (in the film), I admire. Now, since (according to Hoyle) he is colored pink, I must hate him. Well, I won’t. That’s what DOGMA stands for. In plain English: Do not use your brain or any part thereof. Listen to the “powers that be” even if you have to swallow your own foot on a daily basis. Now certain forums (especially cat and donkey lovers), verbally stand for all things American, and learned how to pump/beat their chests in the name of the Flag, the fifty nifty united states, the incredibly clever president we happen to be blessed with, but they will swallow you whole, if you, as much as pronounce the letter P, let alone spell out the entire word P-I-N-K.

OK you got me. It really isn’t a topic about culture. It is a topic about LACK OF CULTURE. What we so strongly and so profoundly believe, we shall demonstrate by destroying even the worthiest of those who we (mistakenly, self-righteously and pompously) endow with signs of a pinko. This Pinko (Garrison) fought tooth and nail against all odds and his deeds make him my brother, even if he’s the worst scum of the Earth, in your eyes. I saw in him the admiration for the country, Law, Constitution, pride of being American and the will to face unforgiving odds in an uphill struggle. OK, I’m done. Start the cat barrage. Get the donkeys out of the closet. Or, alternatively you may choose to read and make some sense by looking at yourself. Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah. Just bring it on. Let him, who has sinned not, cast the first stone.

Iliya Pavlovich (the plumber)


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To: ILL
Now this post right now INDEED qualifes for a true blue Vanity post. I was re-reading many of these brilliant posts consisting of nothing but with a good dose of trying to upset me, scare me, but always to belittle me. In the course of re-reading I found only following to be real outstanding (if painful) criticisms of my flawed thinking, but with some prominent lack of insult and injury. Those were from Monticelo (male), Tiamat (female) Earthdweller (female) and Allegra (female). Now, I start putting my doctoral brain to work and I draw a conclusion that 75% or the bright remarks on this site were contributed by women. What does that make me now? Gay? Poor mathematician? Self deluding masochist? (scrap the last one).
141 posted on 02/14/2005 5:37:04 AM PST by ILL (yes there are names greater than mine (Jefferson, Franklin, Adams, Lincoln, Bush, etc. but not yours)
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To: ILL

Learn to punctuate.

Worse than a run on sentance is an unclosed parenthesis.

Does the ILL stand for "illiterate?"

Ill mannered?

Ill advised?

Ill conceived?

Ill egal?

Ill prepared?


142 posted on 02/14/2005 5:37:27 AM PST by Phsstpok ("When you don't know where you are, but you don't care, you're not lost, you're exploring.")
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To: Allegra

Seems that some people need either pontificating or a sense of direction. I keep pointing my finger to the right but no-one's watching so I got stuck with "pontificating", besides LACK OF CULTURE is a little painful to me, so I thought I'd share that with those who are not totally illiterate. Literacy does account for culture (in most countries).
I like that. Right after a big ol' run-on sentence.

You did that on purpose, right?

But you have to grant me that the sequence of tenses and the word order were flawless, weren't they?


143 posted on 02/14/2005 5:42:33 AM PST by ILL (yes there are names greater than mine (Jefferson, Franklin, Adams, Lincoln, Bush, etc. but not yours)
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To: Indy Pendance
PhD is so minutely specialized, that's the problem, one topic microscopically studied. The fun degrees are Master's, I'm thinking of getting another Master's, maybe in History, just for the fun of it, or maybe constitutional law. Still kicking the idea around. Then again, I might do English Lit, because we don't study enough of that either. The bennies of a Master's is you don't have to take all the boring electives as an UG degree (affectionately known as Ug's), and you can really study the broad scope of the topic in a classroom setting.

Good luck with another M.S. (More S**t), lol.
I know all about the master's because I have one. Sure has been The Ticket! One is enough for me. I still like to learn though so now I'm learning das deutsch.

144 posted on 02/14/2005 6:14:05 AM PST by starfish923
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To: ILL

Um, let me put it to you in simple terms.... get over yourself.


145 posted on 02/14/2005 6:19:42 AM PST by lilmsdangrus (hard work musta hurt somebody, somewhere....)
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To: starfish923; Indy Pendance

PhD is so minutely specialized, that's the problem, one topic microscopically studied. The fun degrees are Master's, I'm thinking of getting another Master's, maybe in History, just for the fun of it, or maybe constitutional law. Still kicking the idea around. Then again, I might do English Lit, because we don't study enough of that either. The bennies of a Master's is you don't have to take all the boring electives as an UG degree (affectionately known as Ug's), and you can really study the broad scope of the topic in a classroom setting.
Good luck with another M.S. (More S**t), lol.
I know all about the master's because I have one. Sure has been The Ticket! One is enough for me. I still like to learn though so now I'm learning das deutsch.

Pardon me Herr Kommandant but I seem to remember that it should be DER DEUTSCH - unless you were testing my knowledge of German this would count as a mistake in gender article (does not exist in English). Indy, I totally agree with you MS is truly the highest form of education (in my view) it allows (and endows) you with broader knowlegde base, I found it much harder (that's why my post-graduate work took me 14 years - I'm not sure to this day, whether or not it's worth it). Besides, I just might be dumb - and there no academic title was ever a cure for that.


146 posted on 02/14/2005 6:34:54 AM PST by ILL (yes there are names greater than mine (Jefferson, Franklin, Adams, Lincoln, Bush, etc. but not yours)
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To: MKM1960

I believe you must have eared your degree about the time of Kesey and the Merry Pranksters. Obviously something you took then is not agreeing with you now. Oh well, I suppose, it's nothing several intensive sessions of ECT and a lifetime of Haldol won't cure. Have a nice life.

Would you allow me to reply in the words of Benjamin Franklin? Thank you: To err is human, to forgive devine, to persist - devlish.

Yes erred a lot, but I do have an ounce of brains left.


147 posted on 02/14/2005 6:38:19 AM PST by ILL (yes there are names greater than mine (Jefferson, Franklin, Adams, Lincoln, Bush, etc. but not yours)
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To: Flyer

You beat me to it! That was my first thought, when his/her highness changed their name!


148 posted on 02/14/2005 6:41:04 AM PST by lilmsdangrus (hard work musta hurt somebody, somewhere....)
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To: JeanS

I thought that had been established before, but under the risk of repeating myself - yes it is me again.


149 posted on 02/14/2005 6:42:13 AM PST by ILL (yes there are names greater than mine (Jefferson, Franklin, Adams, Lincoln, Bush, etc. but not yours)
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To: ILL
But you have to grant me that the sequence of tenses and the word order were flawless, weren't they?

Yes, but a lot of us here who haven't earned our doctorates can do that.

;-)

150 posted on 02/14/2005 6:49:40 AM PST by Allegra ("They Just Love to Walk in the Middle of the Road!")
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To: ILL
watching the Oliver Stone (BOOOO! - scared ya', didn't I?) movie

ROFL!

Iliya Pavlovich (the plumber)

New screen name?

If nobody else has said it, and I'm not sure if it will be long term, but welcome to FR. Humor is tough to pull off (more so if in fact, you weren't really trying). ;)

But we could use some here.

That's MY opinion and because I think I may be risking nearly 7 years of membership saying so somewhat confirms it. The only way to avoid the 'DOGMA' as you put it is to openly defend your ideas and beliefs against those of others in opposition. Without it, we get lazy and start taking what we say for "TRUTH" without question and forget how to defend it. Example much of the Democrat Party today. Their ideas were once taken as the One Way by most and today they can't express a rational thought in the defense of them.

I don't wish to see it here and welcome differing opinions (but not without a fight... ;)

151 posted on 02/14/2005 7:05:05 AM PST by kAcknor (That's my version of it anyway....)
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To: lilmsdangrus

"His Highness" alternatively "His Holiness" has changed his name only to revert to a derogatory form used by a bunch of bright kids where "his holiness" taught once, and in compliance to the unspoken request that no degree be posted.

You're welcome. (would follow the presumed "thanks" - but that would now make me PRESUMPTUOUS - wouldn't it?)

In either case I can't win so I agree to not win. You happy - I happy.


152 posted on 02/14/2005 7:19:18 AM PST by ILL (yes there are names greater than mine (Jefferson, Franklin, Adams, Lincoln, Bush, etc. but not yours)
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To: kAcknor

If you tell me that you're a female it will ruin my statistical results of projecting how many (how few) bright peple are present at these boards - so please tell me you're male. So far the women are in the 75% lead over men. We, men - need some equality too.


153 posted on 02/14/2005 7:22:18 AM PST by ILL (yes there are names greater than mine (Jefferson, Franklin, Adams, Lincoln, Bush, etc. but not yours)
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To: kAcknor

Not trying?

You mean my 4 years of work at the NY School for Dramatic Arts (the Tisch school for the Arts) was wasted? I tried as hard as I could. Please don't tell me it doesn't show. Drama was easy - comedy was a nightmare of a subject (to me).


154 posted on 02/14/2005 7:24:46 AM PST by ILL (yes there are names greater than mine (Jefferson, Franklin, Adams, Lincoln, Bush, etc. but not yours)
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To: ILL
Male. Most definitely male (not that there is anything wrong with that...). :)

NY School for Dramatic Arts

That explains allot. Hearts & minds are never won with subtlety, and insulting the audience only works in small comedy clubs full of drunk patrons.

If you wish to change minds here you have to use logic, fact and offset disagreements with humor. Direct attacks beginning with "I feel" will get you nothing but scorn for a lack of ideas. Rightfully so.

Those of us here for the most part believe we have survived a 40 to 50 year political wilderness. We did it with logic, arguments that could not be disproved, only disagreed with, and large scale examples that in effect forced liberals to stand before a brick wall and attempt to claim it didn't exist.

Liberals have yet to realize their arguments have been soundly and throughly beaten in public and the rules have changed. Hillary knows there has been a change, but doesn't quite fully understand and continues to play by the old rules. Howard Dean, Harry Reid, Barbara Boxer and the like haven't a clue and continue on the old road.

The new rules are conservative rules learned in that wilderness and used to great effect.

Want a chance to win? Play by the new rules.

155 posted on 02/14/2005 7:57:46 AM PST by kAcknor (That's my version of it anyway....)
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To: kAcknor
Hi male, good to see a male for a change (other than that Monticello guy).
Yes, your arguments are logical, coherent and your instructions are well taken, except for the small damage to my limbs from being quartered here - I may have replied with more dignity, but I chose the aggressive stance because I thought it would work best (as it did). I am afraid of many things (flattery is the most dreadful thought to me) but when people bark at me I know how to bark back. Excuse me for being busy barking (no sarcasm = zero pun). My school was not FOR it was OF (proper name was OF not FOR) The Tisch School of Dramatic Arts at NYU. Sorry again. On the other hand, I didn't really expect I'd find any Clintons, Deans or Kerrys here. I often think that liberals are needlessly dignified each time they get addressed by certain prevailing groups in today's America. (is that the mistake you advised me against "I think")?
156 posted on 02/14/2005 9:36:53 AM PST by ILL (yes there are names greater than mine (Jefferson, Franklin, Adams, Lincoln, Bush, etc. but not yours)
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To: ILL
I also thought that publishing something private in public was not entirely "in line" with ethical standards requested by the site operators (ahem ahem), but I could be wrong, I'm a "newbie" and therefore worth stoning.

You have a lot of misconceptions, not to mention emotional issues. But I shall continue to publish my personal correspondence whenever I choose. Thanks for your concern.

Considering your constant refrain about "turning the other cheek," that doesn't apply when one casts the first stone. You'll note, Your Egoness, that Jesus often made mincemeat of the "superior" rabbis and religious leaders.

157 posted on 02/14/2005 11:58:49 AM PST by Coop (In memory of a true hero - Pat Tillman)
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To: ILL
[Women] are way smarter and more perceptive and more intelligent, astute than we men are.

Straight from the bleeding hearts' textbook.

Smarter and more intelligent!! Amazing. I don't believe I've ever run across a doctor who has struggled so much with the English language.

158 posted on 02/14/2005 12:01:42 PM PST by Coop (In memory of a true hero - Pat Tillman)
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To: Coop
OK genius you win. Step into my ORGAZMATRON. You get the activation button once you prove your Spanish, German, Latin, Italian, French, Russian and Croatian are half as good as my English. How's that for a generous offer? You only gotta come to me half way. I'm being "Jesus like lenient" which I prefer to making minced meat out of anybody (even you qualify for a human being - you seem to have fingers to type with). Is that what you enjoy more? Competition? Race? Or shall we lower the bar and find something even more infantile?
159 posted on 02/14/2005 12:53:23 PM PST by ILL (yes there are names greater than mine (Jefferson, Franklin, Adams, Lincoln, Bush, etc. but not yours)
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To: Coop

Smarter and more intelligent!!

Don't tell me you're the last person on Earth who doesn't know the difference. Want a link for the Noah Webster's site? or American Heritage? Whichever you prefer.

UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE: ORGAZMATRON DISABLED - I will be in Chicago tomorrow all day so if you wanna stick pins in me you can find me at the Michigan Avenue Marriott. Use of Orgazmatron by permission granted only by the operator (me)


160 posted on 02/14/2005 12:59:55 PM PST by ILL (ORGAZMATRON disabled untill further notice. Your Ger, Fr, Ita, Lat, Rus must be as good as my ENG.)
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