Texas Longhorn

mine ^ | February 11, 2005 | Ilija Pavlovich PhD

[ILL]

Texas longhorn

If you ever have to “grab a bull by the horns” try a Texas longhorn. Considering that my first post was critical of SF Chronicle's depiction of USMC General Mattis – but somehow got into a vanity section – I wouldn’t be surprised that this too gets reclassified the same way. According to some members here, I invited the Wrath of Gods upon myself on account of:

a) being new – not knowing the ropes

b) having posted a vanity as my first article

c) me being a pink, pro-communist, liberal threat to security of the United States because my name contains too many consonants

d) In my naiveté I posted my real name and a degree which most plumbers and cab drivers consider offensive, and would prefer I dropped out of high school.

Something else came to my mind watching the Oliver Stone (BOOOO! – scared ya’, didn’t I?) movie JFK, last night. OK cat lovers, donkey posters get your ammo out, this is gonna be your field day, the more pictures of animals the better. Since films ordinarily fall into the category of culture I think this is the appropriate placement for this sarcastic semi-grievance.

Meanwhile back at the ranch: JFK (BOO! Scared you again) the movie revolves around this New Orleans District attorney Jim Garrison – a true life character. By all accounts the director (Stone) and this Garrison were more pink than pink, and therefore enemies to certain forums that enjoy posting pictures of domestic animals. But something unexpected happened. This Garrison (as pink as you want to make him) took the bull by the horns and strongly fought for what he believed. Contrary to the general perception that he may have been a “pinko” in his real life, I see, his fight, his irreverence, his stubbornness, his strong moral adherence to protecting the Laws of our country, his clash with the FBI, as the very essence of a good radical warrior who just happens to be on the wrong side of the fence (providing I ever grant anybody to put up a fence between me and my country). I would want that man on my side, no matter what side I choose to be on. All his qualities (in the film), I admire. Now, since (according to Hoyle) he is colored pink, I must hate him. Well, I won’t. That’s what DOGMA stands for. In plain English: Do not use your brain or any part thereof. Listen to the “powers that be” even if you have to swallow your own foot on a daily basis. Now certain forums (especially cat and donkey lovers), verbally stand for all things American, and learned how to pump/beat their chests in the name of the Flag, the fifty nifty united states, the incredibly clever president we happen to be blessed with, but they will swallow you whole, if you, as much as pronounce the letter P, let alone spell out the entire word P-I-N-K.

OK you got me. It really isn’t a topic about culture. It is a topic about LACK OF CULTURE. What we so strongly and so profoundly believe, we shall demonstrate by destroying even the worthiest of those who we (mistakenly, self-righteously and pompously) endow with signs of a pinko. This Pinko (Garrison) fought tooth and nail against all odds and his deeds make him my brother, even if he’s the worst scum of the Earth, in your eyes. I saw in him the admiration for the country, Law, Constitution, pride of being American and the will to face unforgiving odds in an uphill struggle. OK, I’m done. Start the cat barrage. Get the donkeys out of the closet. Or, alternatively you may choose to read and make some sense by looking at yourself. Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah. Just bring it on. Let him, who has sinned not, cast the first stone.

Iliya Pavlovich (the plumber)

[Indy Pendance]

PhD is so minutely specialized, that's the problem, one topic microscopically studied. The fun degrees are Master's, I'm thinking of getting another Master's, maybe in History, just for the fun of it, or maybe constitutional law. Still kicking the idea around. Then again, I might do English Lit, because we don't study enough of that either. The bennies of a Master's is you don't have to take all the boring electives as an UG degree (affectionately known as Ug's), and you can really study the broad scope of the topic in a classroom setting.

[Indy Pendance]

Hey, lighten up. If a poster posts a vanity, of course we're going to have fun, take it in stride, and welcome aboard. BTW, Are you not feeling well?

[Coop]

Not only did I have the courage to read my three (and counting) FReepmails from our brave hero, but I'd like to share my correspondence with all: In response to "Dude, your academic credentials don't fly here. Learn some manners." I got this gem.

Re: Texas Longhorn From ILL | 02/13/2005 4:26:15 PM EST replied

Dude, you should see my parents, they tried that for over 50 years and ended up defeated, you have no idea what a nut you're dealing with. I give myself all the right I give you (but I get to carry the football - during the cold war that the decodind device carried, wherever the President went in a steel suitcase by his security detail, or the NSC highest ranking officer - in case you didn't know it - but I'm sure you knew that. My "academic credentials" have been removed - I have no idea what are you referring to? I'm just a plain Jos Shmoe, just like any other guy. You buy me a beer I'll buy you two beers, you throw a stone at me - I get the Grand Canyon on your head. So back off, or go play with someone who scares more easily.

Followed 41 seconds later by this dissertation:

Re: Texas Longhorn From ILL | 02/13/2005 4:27:56 PM EST read Maybe I forgot to tell you in plain English to back off unless you have something to say. I don't take crap sitting down, not even from you ladies.

And here was the great work of art (completely unsolicited, I might add. How lucky am I?!?) that started it all:

Original message by ILL regarding Texas Longhorn received 2005-02-13 21:11:43 Hell no. I never back off. You stone me? I boulder stone you till the avalanche starts in the Grand Canyon. I have no idea what anything else means. I decided to drop the PhD since a lot you suffer from such vanity and insecurity (not even gonna mention the hypocrites), that it made it difficult for me to insult you (or them) properly. This way - the gloves are off. Anybody picking a fight is gonna get it. This childish hazing has lasted long enough. If you respect me - I'll respect you back 10 fold. You start getting cute and smaralecky - expect the same. I think that much was clear from my recent two public posts - as I was even accused by some rocket scientist of being a coward for sending an email (although I did post my real name here and my own web site) while "bravely" deleted it without reading it - c'mon man, who's kidding who here? What is this game of chicken? Wanna be childish? - Hell I work with kids every day and can mimick their behaviour with more viciousness than you can ever imagine.

Lucky kids.

[Coop]

Hey! Didn't know you were on the thread. I don't think our new friend has any intention of lightening up. We're not worthy.

[Indy Pendance]

With all due respect, and minus the bravado Ill started out with, I applaud his accomplishment. Getting a PhD is no chump change, and doing so while being foreign born. Hat's off to you Ill, but lose the attitude. We are all here working for a common cause, restore our constitution to it's original intent. I worked closely with a women who was from Kosovo (before the impeached invasion), who obtained her PhD and Master's in the US. (BA in Chemistry, MS in engineering, PhD in Operations analysis) She worked with Deming as her mentor. That lady was a pistol, but NEVER bragged.

[Flyer]

Ilbay, is that you?

Great to see you finished school. Welcome back!

[Indy Pendance]

Well, yeah????? I got me one of them BS degrees, and you all know what that stands for. Sorry, I didn't get the MS, "more of it", just the MA degree.....and will never get a Piled higher and deeper degree, not my style. But, I am seriously considering another Master's. Got a problem with that, you loser GEDer, ur just gelous. *VGB*

[Indy Pendance]

BWAHAHAHAHA! Too funny, but it's over his head. LOL!

[MKM1960]

I believe you must have eared your degree about the time of Kesey and the Merry Pranksters. Obviously something you took then is not agreeing with you now. Oh well, I suppose, it's nothing several intensive sessions of ECT and a lifetime of Haldol won't cure. Have a nice life.

[Flyer]

;-)

[devane617]

Hmmmm. Do you know what you are trying to say? I sure don't.

[Jean S]

Is this you? A moderator at indymedia?

http://baltimore.indymedia.org/mod/accounts/display/1532/index.php

[humblegunner]

I boulder stone you till the avalanche starts in the Grand Canyon. I have no idea what anything else means.

That will be my new mantra.

I'll boulder stone anyone who questions me and I have
no idea what anything else means nor do I care.

Wanna hear about my titles and stuff? ;-)

[Flyer]

Wanna hear about my titles and stuff?

Don't you have a title from Texas for a 4WD Chevy?

[Phsstpok]

OK, simple statement of declarative fact, so even a "PHD" can get it.

If what you are posting is not a news article that you then comment on, it is, by definition, a vanity.

You are welcome to your opinion. You are welcome to post it here. You are not entitled to ignore the long standing conventions and take umbrage that folks don't genuflect to your awesome intellect.

Hang around, you might learn something. I know I have (witness my flawless posting where I never make errors of fact or style [/sarcasm]). If you do you might have something to contribute that won't be obscured by your ego.

[humblegunner]

Don't you have a title from Texas for a 4WD Chevy?

Aye, that I have.
But there are no boulder stones in the Chevy.

In fact, we try hard to drive around 'em.

The boulder stones, that is.

[Indy Pendance]

I have a nice profile page (or so I think), and you don't reply to me? What gives?

[Coop]

Maybe I'll make time for you when you get a doctorate. ;-)

[Eaker]

I was cooking dinner.

Would y'all start over now that I am paying attention??

Thanks!

[Coop]

That depends. What's for dinner?