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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

First of all, nobody is claiming that "black people are a link between apes and white people." That's something you just made up from whole cloth. My point is that the frequency of the alleles responsible for human skin color has changed over time. That's called evolution. There's no presumption that some people are "more evolved" than others, or that one group of people are closer to apes than others. All humans do not share the exact same pattern of allele frequencies, however. Dark skin is favored in warmer, equitorial climates. Light skin is favored in colder climates. As far as white people evolving in Egypt is concerned, where is your evidence that this is how it happened? Isn't it possible that the people who formed the earliest civilizations in Egypt were migrants from another part of the world who had evolved lighter colored skin? Isn't it possible that the main barriers to interbreeding were cultural and sociological rather than geological? (Ie. the Egyptians considered themselves superior to the surrounding non-Egyptians)


265 posted on 02/14/2005 11:22:13 AM PST by stremba
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To: stremba
(Ie. the Egyptians considered themselves superior to the surrounding non-Egyptians)

So what?


(Ie. the SOMEBODYS consider themselves superior to the surrounding non-SOMEBODYS)


Oh...

Did I say SOMEBODY?

I meant EVOLUTIONIST

275 posted on 02/14/2005 11:49:48 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: stremba
>First of all, nobody is claiming that "black people are a link between apes and white people." That's something you just made up from whole cloth. My point is that the frequency of the alleles responsible for human skin color has changed over time. That's called evolution. There's no presumption that some people are "more evolved" than others,

I did not just make up that the first modern humans were from Africa. Nor did I just make up that Africans are black. Nor am I the one saying that a few tens of thousands of years of sun or lack of it can change racial makeup. It does stand to reason by your logic that the previous five million years of alleged human evolution in the african sun means that the first modern humans were necessarily Black and not White.

If man started Black, then turned White (among other changes) while the others stayed the same, then that is either "more evolved" or it is senseless to call it "evolution". Unless you consider it "devolution"? The word evolution implies upward movement in complexity from carbon laced slime to man at the top. (And then therefore to White and Asian man.)

>or that one group of people are closer to apes than others.

Geographically or otherwise?

>All humans do not share the exact same pattern of allele frequencies, however. Dark skin is favored in warmer, equitorial climates. Light skin is favored in colder climates.

Why is not darker skin favored in all climates? Dark absorbs heat which would be an advantage when there is less of it. Light skin burns even in temperate summer sun and is prone to cancers. The fact is because the distribution is what it is, you are guessing what happened and why. There is no observational evidence.

>As far as white people evolving in Egypt is concerned, where is your evidence that this is how it happened? Isn't it possible that the people who formed the earliest civilizations in Egypt were migrants from another part of the world who had evolved lighter colored skin?

Only if for most of the last 100,000 years there was no one in Egypt and then Whites came back from the north to an empty Nile River valley. (It was not.)

>Isn't it possible that the main barriers to interbreeding were cultural and sociological rather than geological? (Ie. the Egyptians considered themselves superior to the surrounding non-Egyptians)

Not through a succession of different cultures over 100,000 years.
284 posted on 02/14/2005 1:21:51 PM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth...)
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