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Dog Soldiers of the American Indian Movement (AIM)
Vanity | 2-`0-05 | Vanity

Posted on 02/10/2005 8:44:07 PM PST by Snapple

An Indian publication points out that when he speaks Colorado's radical professor Ward Churchill is "shielded apparently by his own American Indian Movement (AIM) security team." http://www.indiancountry.com/content.cfm?id=1096410293


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: Colorado; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: academia; aim; american; americanindians; churchill; dog; enemaofthepeople; indian; movement; soldiers; ward; wardchurchill
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To: Chad Fairbanks
It's different because we are indians, and so we are brute savage thugs and criminals blah blah blah

Hey! That's /noble savage/ to you! Hmmph!
121 posted on 02/15/2005 8:29:50 PM PST by Ladypixel (Not all Indian activists act like lefty Churchills... thank goodness!)
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To: kingu

Shhhhhh! Don't tell everyone our Sooper Sekrit Plan!


122 posted on 02/15/2005 8:31:09 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks (Celibacy is a hands-on job.)
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To: Ladypixel
Hey! That's /noble savage/ to you! Hmmph!

Ain't anything noble about this Haudenosaunee ;0)

123 posted on 02/15/2005 8:31:47 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks (Celibacy is a hands-on job.)
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To: kingu
Don't forget that we drive Hummers, own multiple casinos, enjoy vast mansions, and plan on annexing every third city in the United States with our wages of sin. Oh, and at the same time, we're living on government dole.

Hey, now, those commods are pretty yummy if you cook 'em right. Gotta stay on the dole to get my monthly vats of lard, eh? :)
124 posted on 02/15/2005 8:32:03 PM PST by Ladypixel (Not all Indian activists act like lefty Churchills... thank goodness!)
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To: Ladypixel

Mmmmm... Government Cheese, and a 1-pound pad of butter. Yum!


125 posted on 02/15/2005 8:32:51 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks (Celibacy is a hands-on job.)
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To: Chad Fairbanks
Government Cheese - A food product, a door stop, a great car support when those pesky tires fall off the junker in the front yard...
126 posted on 02/15/2005 8:37:13 PM PST by kingu (Which would you bet on? Iraq and Afghanistan? Or Haiti and Kosovo?)
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To: kingu

Yeah, there are those uses. But I prefer to use it to beat my family after a 3-day drinking binge... ;0)


127 posted on 02/15/2005 8:38:05 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks (Celibacy is a hands-on job.)
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To: Ladypixel

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1336690/posts

AIM and JonBenet thread.
Just a teaser.


128 posted on 02/15/2005 8:38:28 PM PST by Snapple
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To: Snapple
AIM and JonBenet thread.
Just a teaser.


Nothing personal, but I'm not entirely sure that you want me to read that thread. Something tells me that you don't want me to open that can of worms. Maybe I'm psychic or something.

But hey, maybe after dinner. After all, I'm already laughing over the merest suggestion. It ought to go well with dessert; I'm sure that rocky road ice cream will look great on my monitor...
129 posted on 02/15/2005 8:42:05 PM PST by Ladypixel (Not all Indian activists act like lefty Churchills... thank goodness!)
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To: Ladypixel

You GOTTA read it. I'm telling you, it's an absolute riot... especially the connection to Mount Rushmore via the internet...


130 posted on 02/15/2005 8:45:14 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks (Celibacy is a hands-on job.)
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To: Ladypixel

Although in another thread, this person said, of AIM: "These American radicals are helping the terrorists."

Gotta love it.


131 posted on 02/15/2005 8:46:36 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks (Celibacy is a hands-on job.)
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To: Chad Fairbanks

There's a certain amount of facetious sarcasm with the incredulity there. My Dad taught N. American Indian history at the U of I for 4 years while he was getting his masters and running the ROTC program there. To this day (after an illustrious 18 year military career which included that teaching stint) he'll stand behind the plains and northwest tribes warrior societies having produced some of the finest tactical fighters to have walked the planet.

My personal favorite of that era is Chief Joseph of the Nez Pierce. I've often thought someone should have had the balls to have let them "slip by" when they ran them to ground shy of the Canadian border. That was an epic trek and fight...


132 posted on 02/15/2005 8:48:38 PM PST by Axenolith (This space for rent...)
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To: Axenolith

I hear ya, and agree...


133 posted on 02/15/2005 8:55:58 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks (Celibacy is a hands-on job.)
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To: Snapple
You may say they aren't "real" Dog Soldiers, but that is what they seem to consider themselves.

That's kind of like equating some guys who dress in camo, call themselves Rangers and go around beating up people with the real deal. It's not becoming to denigrate the real thing, or the memories of it past, by giving credence to losers who wear the name or get branded with it incorrectly...

134 posted on 02/15/2005 9:01:54 PM PST by Axenolith (This space for rent...)
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To: Chad Fairbanks

Federal prosecutor--not very high up and in a county. Like an assistant or something.

He was nothing. And it didn't last long.


135 posted on 02/15/2005 9:36:21 PM PST by Snapple
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To: Ladypixel

There are Lakota Dog Soldiers but they are not all really Lakota.


136 posted on 02/15/2005 9:38:38 PM PST by Snapple
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To: Snapple
There are Lakota Dog Soldiers but they are not all really Lakota.

Look. I know Lakota culture, far better than you do given your constant retorts. I even speak some Lakota, if not well, because I've had to deal with so many Lakota people. I know the culture, I know the religion, I know the people and consider many of them friends. And, put simply, THERE ARE NO LAKOTA DOG SOLDIERS. The Lakota band of the Sioux (which is made up of three separate tribes, by the way) does not have a Dog Soldier society or clan. At all. Period.

You're saying now that not only is this subgroup calling themselves Dog Soldiers (which dishonors the REAL Dog Soldier societies, but which is vaguely understandable) that they're naming themselves Lakota, even though they aren't? Listen, buddy, let me tell you something: you won't get a member of another tribe to claim they're a Lakota anything. There's a saying in the southern half of the US - "We don't care how you do it in South Dakota." That directly applies to the Lakotas, who, all things considered, aren't very popular amongst other tribal groups.

What you're suggesting is that some Joe Warrior is going to call himself a Lakota Dog Soldier (which is a misnomer /and/ denying his own heritage, which may not be Lakota) because of AIM? Baloney. You don't know what you're talking about.

Then again, I figured out that you had no clue back when I got told that you decided AIM killed Jon Benet (you sick person - you need to stop eating the tinfoil and put it back on your head, fella), so I'm not entirely sure why exactly I'm bothering to respond to you anymore.

I gave you your satisfaction, read your other twisted thread (and boy was it twisted), and posted my reply. That's about all you're going to get out of me. My personal opinion at this point is that you need to seriously reread your history books, because you obviously were on some serious drugs when you first read them... and you need to lose your racism, because the Indian folks don't want to kill you or your children. Sheesh.
137 posted on 02/15/2005 9:55:51 PM PST by Ladypixel (Not all Indian activists act like lefty Churchills... thank goodness!)
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To: Ladypixel

According to reports in Indian media, Ward Churchill is surrounded by AIM security. By his own account, he was at Pine Ridge as a member of their security. I think this is the organization that is called the Dog Soldiers.

You don't cite any sources for your contention that there are no Lakota Dog Soldiers. I think you alleged you phoned some annonymous people who told you there were no Lakota Dog Soldiers. Annonymous posters and annonymous people on the phone means nothing. This is like claiming you are Mr X and killed the FBI guys. It isn't evidence at all.

I think there is such an organization because of court testimony by an identified woman with close ties to AIM and a prominent Indian writer. These people are on the record in court testimony and in signed articles:

The Lakota Dog Soldiers are mentioned and in a way that seems to be authentic. The killer of Anna Mae, Arlo Looking Cloud, may have been a dog soldier:

"Looking Cloud recieving, and having the gun would be consistent with Lakota traditional ethics dealing with Dog Soldier protocal. Graham was not a Lakota, and a woman would not generally have been assigned the responsibility of dealing with Lakota Dog Soldier business on Lakota land, therefore, it is more likely that Looking Cloud originally did have or recieved the gun."
http://www.jfamr.org/trialtime.html

I can't say how accurate this chronology is, but it does mention the Dog Soldiers and post it for that reason.

Here is another referrence to Dog Soldiers:

"DeMain has included more detailed versions of the alleged events, naming three individuals he believes were involved in Aquash's kidnapping. In DeMain's view the kidnappers (one of whom he claims was also the trigger man in the execution) were acting on orders from above. "These boys wanted to be dog soldiers," he says. "They wanted to be in the gang, they wanted to be important people. They were already doing security and toting around guns. So when someone in the movement ordered Anna Mae's pick-up, they went and did it."
http://www.citypages.com/databank/21/1002/article8432.asp?page=3


138 posted on 02/17/2005 2:58:09 AM PST by Snapple
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To: Ladypixel

It shows a lack of real arguments on your part to criticize my views by saying that I am drunk or on drugs or crazy.

These are the tactics of the KGB.

The facts are that I am always sober, I never use drugs, and that I am an expert on propaganda and disinformation.

I do not wish to take sides on what is the "true" AIM and and what is not. I don't have a position on what dog soldiers are traditional and what dog soldiers are fakes. These are issues for people who are participants in that debate. I am not taking sides on that.

I am more interested in what the AIM affiliated with Ward Churchill and Lee Hill are up to. It is a matter of record that Lee Hill manipulated that murder investigation in order to create a conspiracy theory that a ring of powerful pedophiles was being protected by the FBI.

Lee Hill's actions remind me of how Churchill has characterized FBI actions at Pine Ridge as protecting alleged criminals:

"By March 1973, the Bureau appears to have assumed de facto control over the GOONs, [reservation police] providing them with weapons, ammunition, explosives, communications gear, field intelligence and what amounted to blanket immunity form prosecution so long as they hit the right targets. For the next three years the GOONs served as an anti-AIM death squad functioning under auspices of the FBI." http://www.noparolepeltier.com/churchill.html

My own personal view is that AIM was manipulated white radicals who advanced their own radical anti-FBI issues and did not really care about helping Indians.

It is pretty clear that Indian people are not keen to be associated with the views of Ward Churchill. I have posted a lot about that on this forum in threads on Churchill, if not on this thread.

I think that this "AIM" security Ward Churchill goes around with are probably these Dog Soldiers. Since people who consiedered themselves Dog Soldiers or Dog Soldier wannabees killed Anna Mae Aquash, I think Dog Soldiers are real and that they are dangerous, not a joke. I have also been told that these Dog Soldiers cause trouble on reservations. It is a sad thing if these people are Indians because they are only advancing an anti-FBI propaganda agenda and not promoting a better life for Indians.

You yourself admit that something calling itself Dog Soldiers exist--you just say that they are a joke and that they aren't a traditional expression of Lakota culture.

I am more worried about what these people may be doing to hurt people--Indians and others--than in polemics about whether they are traditional or not. I don't think they are a joke.


139 posted on 02/17/2005 3:32:40 AM PST by Snapple
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To: Ladypixel

You might look at the trial transcript of the trial for Arlo Looking Cloud for Indian testimony on the Dog Soldiers.

Probably there is more there. The Denver Post covered this trial.

Or you could make a phone call to the two people I cited by name and see what they tell you about "AIM" Dog Soldiers.


140 posted on 02/17/2005 3:43:49 AM PST by Snapple
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