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“Intelligent design is a religious doctrine,” said Wayne Carley, executive director of the National Association of Biology Teachers.

"Teaching evolution is also a religious doctrine", says Mr. Carley, who expressed a desire that this reality continue to be kept secret from the students. Mr. Carley futher reports that it is only Christians who are militant about this subject.

"Biology teachers are always a warm, fuzzy, and peaceful people, who never say unkind things about God, Jesus, or Christians", he said.

1 posted on 02/10/2005 6:39:52 PM PST by gobucks
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"Mr. Carley futher reports that it is only Christians who are militant about this subject."


I support teaching both, am I militant?


2 posted on 02/10/2005 6:41:51 PM PST by cripplecreek (they call me tater.)
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God is not an opinion.


3 posted on 02/10/2005 6:44:01 PM PST by LauraleeBraswell (Forgive Russia, Ignore Germany, Punish France - Condoleezza Rice)
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If he thinks that only the Christians are the militant nes, then that statement proves that evolutionists act like Democrats when confronted by the truth.


6 posted on 02/10/2005 6:56:16 PM PST by RaceBannon ((Prov 28:1 KJV) The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a lion.)
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71% of Bush voters support teaching ID

Well, there ya go. It's always been like pulling teeth before, but now we have it straight up and out in the open. The article says that 71% of Bush voters support teaching creationism, but you've changed it to 71% supporting ID. Which can only mean that we've been correct all along - ID is creationism. In pseudo-scientific garb, I suppose, but now we've got confirmation nonetheless - ID is creationism. QED.

Most folks aren't as forthright as you - kudos for your honesty.

7 posted on 02/10/2005 6:58:25 PM PST by general_re (How come so many of the VKs have been here six months or less?)
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71% of Bush voters support teaching ID

So?

I'd like to repeal the law of gravity a little, so I could bound around like a puppy!

The results of scientific investigations are not determined by a poll of voters. (But a comparable case: In Russia a couple of scientific fields were held back for a couple of generations by government mandate. Look up "Lysenko".)

8 posted on 02/10/2005 7:00:54 PM PST by Coyoteman
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To paraphrase Gothmog:

"Fear. Georgia, South Carolina, Mississippi, Montana, Oklahoma, Alabama and Texas...Ohio, Arkansas, Wisconsin, Kansas, Wisconsin, Maryland, Michigan, Tennessee and Alaska are rank with it."


14 posted on 02/10/2005 7:12:41 PM PST by planetesimal
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Well it would shock many people...but my public school teachings included creationism alongside evolution. I'm sure the teacher could have been sued in this culture, but he wasn't. Similiarly we read the Bible in a Lit class. I'm sure that would be a scandal. I don't believe in evolution. I realize many folks do...I realize many folks believe in creationism and Evolution. I am a straight creationist. Eventually it takes a leap of Faith to believe either since none of us were there so my opinion is to teach both, or teach neither.
17 posted on 02/10/2005 7:14:50 PM PST by Soul Seeker
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Intelligent design, scientific creationism --- reverse engineering of Divinity


19 posted on 02/10/2005 7:22:16 PM PST by olde north church (Powerful is the hand that holds the keys to Heaven.)
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“There is no research to support it, and it is clearly religious in that it posits a higher being.”

NOT - see the work of William Dembski, Michael Behe, et al

23 posted on 02/10/2005 7:26:47 PM PST by LiteKeeper (Secularization of America is happening)
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It this nonsense is not stopped, it will be our undoing. What a stupid cause to waste our political capital on: fighting science.
25 posted on 02/10/2005 7:43:15 PM PST by curiosity
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Be careful where you go with that ID stuff. CA Whackos will have us teaching kids aliens from other worlds planted us as an experiment and are returning occasionally to observe us.


32 posted on 02/10/2005 8:12:20 PM PST by SolidRedState (I've just peed my pants and no one can do a thing about it.)
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I'm sure this came as a surprise on FR. /sarcasm


74 posted on 02/11/2005 7:37:09 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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The brick wall in science education is math. Teach math, and those who gain some ability in that discipline will get something out of science courses.


82 posted on 02/11/2005 9:10:24 AM PST by RightWhale (Please correct if cosmic balance requires.)
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How could anyone possibly come up with that 71% number??? No one interviewed me. No one interviewed husband.

I guess I should just trust them as they are the "establishment" media, and they have been vetted by the government.


97 posted on 02/11/2005 12:04:25 PM PST by petitfour
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1) Darwin's book is two-thirds theory and one-third problems he had with his own theory.
2) Many scientists consider science as their religion.
3) Anarchists and Atheists are militant about their beliefs.
Why does everyone except Christians have a say in what is taught to our children?


122 posted on 02/14/2005 8:18:03 AM PST by Grey_Wolfe ("Moral Values" is not the same as "Moral Truths")
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Aerospace Engineering 101A: How Planes are held aloft by Angels.


139 posted on 02/14/2005 8:27:45 PM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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