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U.S. Marine Charged with Murdering Two Iraqis
Reuters ^ | 2/10/05 | Jane Sutton

Posted on 02/10/2005 5:50:53 PM PST by TexKat

MIAMI (Reuters) - A U.S. Marine has been charged with premeditated murder and could face the death penalty for shooting two Iraqi men during a vehicle search near a weapons cache in Iraq last year, the Marine's attorney said on Thursday.

The Marine Corps released a statement saying 2nd Lt. Ilario G. Pantano was charged on Feb. 1 for his involvement in the shooting deaths of two Iraqi men on April 15, 2004, during combat operations in Iraq.

The release said the commanding general of the 2nd Marine Division, Maj. Gen. Richard Huck, had convened an investigation to determine if Pantano should stand trial, and details of the charges would not be released. A spokesman at Camp Lejuene, the North Carolina base where Pantano is stationed, did not return calls seeking comment,

Pantano's civilian attorney, Charles Gittens, said the 33-year-old Marine was charged with premeditated murder and "he's made it pretty firmly clear that he is not guilty." The crime carries the death penalty but the Marines have not said whether they will seek that punishment if he is convicted, Gittens said.

Pantano was the commander of a Marine platoon sent to search a suspected insurgent hide-out in an area south of Baghdad on April 15. The Marines found weapons, ammunition and bomb-making material in the building, and saw two men fleeing in a sport utility vehicle, Gittens said.

The Marines shot out the vehicle's tires to force it to a halt, took the two men into custody and ordered them to rip out the seats and the interior of the vehicle during a search for booby traps and secret compartments, Gittens said.

One of the men turned suddenly toward Pantano "as if to attack," and the pair kept moving when Pantano ordered them to stop, Gittens said.

"He (Pantano) thought he was in danger and he fired and he killed them and that's what we do to terrorists who don't listen to orders. ... It's a combat situation, kill or be killed," the attorney said.

Pantano feared the men may have been trying to detonate explosives remotely, Gittens said.

"What's he supposed to do, wait until he's standing in the inferno?" the attorney added.

Pantano served three more months in Iraq after the shooting and returned to Camp Lejeune when his tour of duty ended. The former commodities trader is from New York City and also fought during the first Gulf War, Gittens said.

He had not been placed in confinement or otherwise restricted at Camp Lejeune, the Marines said in their statement.

The investigators could recommend Pantano face court-martial, receive administrative discipline or that the charges be dropped altogether, the Marines said.

Pantano's mother, Merry Pantano, has established a Web site (http://www.defendthedefenders.org/pages/1/index.htm) to raise money and awareness for the defense of her son and other soldiers and Marines facing combat-related charges.

"I won't sit idly by while his reputation, honor and sacrifices are diminished by bureaucrats squeamish with the sight of blood while our country is at war," she says on the site.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2ndltilariopantano; ilariopantano; iraq; jag; marine; pantano; usmarine; usmc
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"I won't sit idly by while his reputation, honor and sacrifices are diminished by bureaucrats squeamish with the sight of blood while our country is at war," she says on the site.
1 posted on 02/10/2005 5:50:54 PM PST by TexKat
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To: TexKat

Geez, I can't stand how some of our own countrymen would sit there and try to fry our own guys. War is war, no matter what rules you put on it. Survival is goal, you can't survive a war with handling enemy with kiddie glove hands.


2 posted on 02/10/2005 5:53:00 PM PST by 1FASTGLOCK45
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To: TexKat
"He (Pantano) thought he was in danger and he fired and he killed them and that's what we do to terrorists who don't listen to orders. ... It's a combat situation, kill or be killed," the attorney said.

Absolutely right. Where's the crime?

3 posted on 02/10/2005 5:53:29 PM PST by silent_jonny ("Don't he never sleep?")
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To: TexKat

Oh..I hate this..He would have not shot them if he were not feeling threatened..IMHO.


4 posted on 02/10/2005 5:53:49 PM PST by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: 1FASTGLOCK45
Geez, I can't stand how some of our own countrymen would sit there and try to fry our own guys. War is war, no matter what rules you put on it. Survival is goal, you can't survive a war with handling enemy with kiddie glove hands.

I don't know if there is more to this story, but it has to be. However I do like his mother's attitude.

5 posted on 02/10/2005 5:55:41 PM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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One of the men turned suddenly toward Pantano "as if to attack...

That's all I need to know.

6 posted on 02/10/2005 5:56:13 PM PST by Semper911 (Those who wait also serve.)
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To: TexKat
What the fu...?

what is it about combat that we do not understand????

release the warrior NOW!!!!!

7 posted on 02/10/2005 5:56:33 PM PST by bubman
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Tonk, please spread the word.


8 posted on 02/10/2005 5:56:35 PM PST by NonValueAdded ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good" HRC 6/28/2004)
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To: TexKat

Yea we could leave it to Reuters to leave out information huh?


9 posted on 02/10/2005 5:57:19 PM PST by 1FASTGLOCK45
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To: TexKat

There's gotta be more to the story than this.


10 posted on 02/10/2005 5:57:21 PM PST by Ramius (Gregoirovich Nyet!)
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To: NonValueAdded
Clickable: Pantano's mother, Merry Pantano, has established a Web site (Defendthedefenders.org------Who has their Back?) to raise money and awareness for the defense of her son and other soldiers and Marines facing combat-related charges.
11 posted on 02/10/2005 5:58:30 PM PST by NonValueAdded ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good" HRC 6/28/2004)
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To: TexKat

it really irks me when I see civvie gits trying to apply cozy legal conditions like "premeditation" on events transpiring in a hot CZ


12 posted on 02/10/2005 5:58:34 PM PST by King Prout (Remember John Adam!)
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To: TexKat

From what I read it sounds like a totally bonified kill.
Hats off to the Lt.


13 posted on 02/10/2005 5:59:22 PM PST by 76834
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To: Travis McGee; archie; Old Sarge; Squantos; Eaker

"civ bites mil" ping!


14 posted on 02/10/2005 5:59:26 PM PST by King Prout (Remember John Adam!)
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To: snippy_about_it; SAMWolf; VaBthang4; Ragtime Cowgirl; Calpernia; xzins; SandRat; Cannoneer; ...

Mega outrage ping request. Please alert your lists.


15 posted on 02/10/2005 6:01:21 PM PST by NonValueAdded ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good" HRC 6/28/2004)
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To: TexKat

I understand the shooting incident, but when did a murder happen?

"I'd say what we have here is a series of victimless crimes..." - Walter Sobchak


16 posted on 02/10/2005 6:01:56 PM PST by Triggerhippie
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To: MEG33; All
Marine Lt. Faces Military Murder Charge - Wired News
17 posted on 02/10/2005 6:02:54 PM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: 76834
From what I read it sounds like a totally bonified kill.

Correct. The info. we get here makes it a legit kill.

18 posted on 02/10/2005 6:03:27 PM PST by demlosers
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To: TexKat

With the info supplied, I don't see how they can claim premeditated murder.


19 posted on 02/10/2005 6:04:32 PM PST by Darksheare (Red Sun rising, Drown without inhaling. Within, the dark holds hard. Higher than hope my cure lies.)
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To: TexKat

Who in the F*#% charged them???


20 posted on 02/10/2005 6:05:59 PM PST by OXENinFLA
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