REAL ID BILL PASSES (Sensenbrenner's illegal alien bill passes, will be attached to Iraq bill)

The Corner/NRO ^ | 2/10/05 | Mark Krikorian

[Coleus]

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[Squantos]

Hmmmmmmm.........this is gonna be interesting.

[_Jim]

This nation has survived for 230 years without having to show your papers please.

I'll bet you were REALLY steamed over the passage (and subsequent use of) The Patriot Act -

- and when Alex Jones mentions Patriot Act II I'll bet that just ups your blood pressure that much more; can I ask you, do you see any end to it?

I mean, will those heretofore unused Y2K internment camps ever get used?

[quietolong]

You mean the Un-patriot acts.

It will end when the NWO is firmly in place. And you have been purged. civilization collapses and we start over.

The Y2K camps are not filled yet because it hasn’t happen yet. Wait tell ( I forget exact date) 2032 I think it is. When Unix flips over.

BTW what government agency are you with? ;)

[22yearscombatarmsnowretired]

If you had actually read "sensenbrenner's bill" you would see that "sensenbrenner's bill" modifies the "old law" as noted in section 102 of "sensenbrenner's bill". That is what I am talking about. Read "sensenbrenner's bill" before you make remarks on it. I wonder how many other is this forum are shooting their mouth of without ever having read what the are talking about? Besides you of course...

[Cableguy]

i have no idea what the f'k you are talking about. if you want to make comments after a week, you should at least explain what your gripe is with what i wrote. or is it with what is in the article? or with someone else? if you can't even explain yourself, nobody will take you seriously.

[22yearscombatarmsnowretired]

I was out of the country.
Your previous comment made it apparent you never read the bill. I think you still have not read it.

The section 102 I included is out of the bill under discussion.

Just because a bill has ID card in the title does not mean it is just about ID cards.

Section 102 of the bill under discussion gives the Director of Home land Security the ability to ignore any law of the land with no legal recourse to any of the victims of his action.

Example. You have a house somewhere along the American border. The Director may order your land seized, house bulldozed and you evicted with no notice and no compensation and you can do nothing about it legally.

This was supposedly added to the bill to deal with California courts and their disagreements with the department of Homeland security.

There is nothing in the section that stops it from being applied elsewhere. The section violates the constitution in that it clearly denies American citizens their due process under the law in a court of law. Notice I said citizens, not immigrants.

Study German history of the late 1930's to see where laws like this lead.

[Cableguy]

Look, that section is designed to deal with the gap in the fence in San Diego. If that language goes beyond what is constitutional as you claim, then it will be struck down by the courts. Maybe you should study US history before studying German history.

[Xenophon450]

"The desire for safety stands against every great and noble enterprise."

Tacitus

Enough said.