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America is a Christian nation. To seek a foundation in vapid secularism, in atheism, Islam or any other competing and inadequate worldview would be to betray our founding. No, George Bush did not lie.
1 posted on 02/10/2005 8:00:52 AM PST by PresbyRev
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According to the history books they are publishing now he did.

I still have my school books from the 70's and 80's in the attic I pull out and let my kids read along with the Bible every so often so they learn the truth.


2 posted on 02/10/2005 8:03:40 AM PST by One Proud Dad
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Maybe Gary DeMar would be happier in Cuba or even China.


3 posted on 02/10/2005 8:03:58 AM PST by mlc9852
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George Bush did not lie. I am sure he believed what he said. He was just wrong.

So9

6 posted on 02/10/2005 8:07:03 AM PST by Servant of the 9 (Trust Me)
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"America was founded on Christian Principles" is not as big a whopper as "I personally ran guns to the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia on Christmas 1968 on the direct orders of president-elect Nixon."


8 posted on 02/10/2005 8:07:39 AM PST by VisualizeSmallerGovernment (Question Liberal Authority)
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If America was not founded as a Cristian nation, why then are such a vast number of city names Cristian based?


9 posted on 02/10/2005 8:07:50 AM PST by stevio (Let Freedom Ring!)
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God has never been a "minor player" in anything!


10 posted on 02/10/2005 8:08:01 AM PST by standupfortruth
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John Quincy Adams: "The American Revolution forever joined the principals of Christianity with civil government. If it did not, then it was in vain."


12 posted on 02/10/2005 8:09:20 AM PST by Moby Grape
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The most important words in the US Constitution are:

We the People of the United States ... do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

True, rightful and just government power comes from the consent of the governed, nothing more, nothing less.
14 posted on 02/10/2005 8:10:52 AM PST by BikerNYC
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America and Zion both have their "holocaust deniers."


22 posted on 02/10/2005 8:23:13 AM PST by papertyger (If you're gonna be dumb, you gotta be tough.)
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One of the fundamental tenants of our government, not existing in any major government before ours, was not only born of the bible but ascribed as a quote of Jesus Christ:  Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's.  Render unto God that which is God's.

Ironically, it's this valley between government and religion that makes ours one of the most religious governments in history.

27 posted on 02/10/2005 8:31:44 AM PST by Psycho_Bunny (“I know a great deal about the Middle East because I’ve been raising Arabian horses" Patrick Swazey)
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"Reading, reflection and time have convinced me that the interests of society require the observation of those moral precepts only in which all religions agree (for all forbid us to murder, steal, plunder, or bear false witness), and that we should not intermeddle with the particular dogmas in which all religions differ, and which are totally unconnected with morality." --Thomas Jefferson to James Fishback, 1809


31 posted on 02/10/2005 8:34:28 AM PST by Monti Cello (What’s that? Hawaiian noises? He's banging on the bongos like a chimpanzee.)
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"It’s obvious that Allen has not done a thorough study of American history as it relates to its founding documents. There is much more to America’s founding than the Constitution. America was not born in 1877 or even in 1776. The Constitution did not create America, America created the Constitution. More specifically, the states created the national government. The states (colonial governments) were a reality long before the Constitution was conceived, and there is no question about their being founded on Christian principles."

Pretty much a thorough dissing of Allen.

33 posted on 02/10/2005 8:36:31 AM PST by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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the only thing more amazing then the ignorance of the author of this article, is the follow up ignorance of some posting here on this thread. publik skool is getting the job done by actually re-writing history. chalk another one up for marxism.


38 posted on 02/10/2005 8:39:57 AM PST by sdpatriot ("If I know the answer I'll tell you the answer, and if I don't, I'll just respond, cleverly." Rummy)
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Have any of these guys actually read any of the writings of our founding fathers????....YES, America was founded on Christian principles.
42 posted on 02/10/2005 8:40:59 AM PST by Lady Heron
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After 40 years of liberalism and the wild growth of "american pop culture", recent public opinion polling indicates that roughly 80% of Americans consider themselves Christian believers. I'd say that makes the USA a Christian nation.


45 posted on 02/10/2005 8:43:37 AM PST by Reagan Man ("Don't let the bastards grind you down." General "Vinegar Joe" Stilwell)
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Founding Fathers views on Religion:

Thomas Jefferson:
"The day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin, will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter."
-“The Christian god can easily be pictured as virtually the same god as the many ancient gods of past civilizations. The Christian god is a three headed monster; cruel, vengeful and capricious. If one wishes to know more of this raging, three headed beast-like god, one only needs to look at the caliber of people who say they serve him. They are always of two classes; fools and hypocrites. To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical.”
-“I have examined all the known superstitions of the Word, and I do not find in our particular superstition of Christianity one redeeming feature. They are all alike, founded on fables and mythology. Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined and imprisoned. What has been the effect of this coercion? To make one half the world fools and the other half hypocrites; to support roguery and error all over the world. “



James Madison:
"Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for every noble enterprise."
"During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What have been its fruits? More or less in all places, pride and indolence in the Clergy, ignorance and servility in the laity, in both, superstition, bigotry and persecution."

Thomas Paine:
-“I do not believe in the creed professed by the Jewish church, by the Roman church, by the Greek church, by the Turkish church, by the Protestant church, nor by any church that I know of...Each of those churches accuse the other of unbelief; and for my own part, I disbelieve them all."
-“Accustom a people to believe that priests and clergy can forgive sins ... and you will have sins in abundance. I would not dare to dishonor my Creator's name by [attaching] it to this filthy book [the Bible].”


George Washington:
-“Of all the animosities which have existed among mankind, those which are caused by difference of sentiments in religion appear to be the most inveterate and distressing, and ought most to be deprecated. I was in hopes that the enlightened and liberal policy, which has marked the present age, would at least have reconciled Christians of every denomination so far that we should never again see the religious disputes carried to such a pitch as to endanger the peace of society.”

-“To give opinions unsupported by reasons might appear dogmatical.”
-“There is nothing which can better deserve our patronage than the promotion of science and literature. Knowledge is in every country t


49 posted on 02/10/2005 8:49:17 AM PST by RushHannity
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Incribed in The Jefferson Memorial

Taken from A Bill for Establishing Religious Freedom, 1777. The last sentence is taken from a letter to James Madison, August 28, 1789.

God who gave us life gave us liberty. Can the liberties of a nation be secure when we have removed a conviction that these liberties are the gift of God? Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, that his justice cannot sleep forever. Commerce between master and slave is despotism. Nothing is more certainly written in the book of fate than these people are to be free. Establish the law for educating the common people. This it is the business of the state to effect and on a general plan.

Jefferson believed the job of government was to secure the liberties given to us as a gift of God.


53 posted on 02/10/2005 8:51:08 AM PST by Blessed
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but you can bet this will be a text book in our schools - and how are the kids to know different?

parents need to be diligent and monitor what books are used in the schools - need to have a list to check

55 posted on 02/10/2005 8:53:55 AM PST by maine-iac7 (...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time." Lincoln)
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seems this author is operating just fine on big lie theory.

In fact the switch from christian to "enlightened" is very orwellian.

The author might as well say USA founded doublepluss ungood and crimethink.


56 posted on 02/10/2005 8:55:16 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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Didn't you people learn ANYTHING from Bush's inaugural speech??? The Qu'ran and Islam were principal influences on the founding of this republic. In fact the first draft of Jefferson's 1st Amendment read "Congress shall make no law which disrespects the Prophet Mohammed, peace be upon Him", before it was thwarted by colonial Zionists. Madison's journals tell of how he spent many hours on his mat praying to Allah in between sessions in Philadelphia. And the real reason devout Muslim Aaron Burr challenged Alexander Hamilton to a duel was because Hamilton blasphemed against the Qu'ran in a speech Congress...but this was covered up by the Zionist media.

Please see the CAIR website for more facts about the Founding Imams of America.

59 posted on 02/10/2005 8:56:53 AM PST by montag813
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