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is nothing less than hatred towards Jesus Christ as the Messiah of all people.

Can you conceive of the possibility of people simply not believing that Jesus is the messiah, without 'hating' him or Christians?

So save your phoney arguments that have all the merit of left wing nut jobs who hate and attack America or Conservatives or Christians or Jews and Israel. The big difference you attack your friends who will endure your hatred because of the love Christ and continue in their love of Jews and Israel because we are commanded to by God and because it is right...and not for the many baloney reasons we have heard like we want to convert all Jews to Christ or it is Christian plot to conquer Israel..etc...

Yeah, you sure sound filled with love to me. [rolls eyes]

And yes there are left wing ant-semitic Jews that hate Israel and all it stands for, and that is what Lapin was saying.

I see no evidence that Dustin Hoffman and Barbra Streisand "hate Israel and all it stands for", nor do I see their not-very-funny movie worthy of the sort of rhetoric levelled against it by Rabbi Lapin.

Can you conceive of the possibility of people simply not believing that Jesus is the messiah, without 'hating' him or Christians?

Yep. But your words here and the 1st post from you are attack tacts on Christ and Gibson and the movie he made about Christ. This is not simply not believing, it has a purpose and that is clearly hate towards Gibson, his movie and the real reason being hatred of Christ. Your words reveal your heart!

I simply do not believe in Judaism as being the way to worship God, and to just say that displays no hatred. But to attack a Jewish man and a movie he made about the God of the Jews is a attack on that God. You would not even waste your time on a movie that is in your opinion a movie not worth seeing, but here you go after Gibson, the movie and Christ. You do not just reject Christ as Messiah but feel you must insult Him and all that represents Him.

And that love of Christ is not not the liberal wishy washy "I feel your pain" nonsense but a love that stands and supports Jews and Israel as if I was one. That does not mean I should agree with everything you malakhi say or represent. Quite the opposite I can love you and express my dislike of your attack on God, His Son Jesus and a man who has made a movie that reflects very well the last 12 hours of Jesus the Messiah life here on earth.

It is also no secret to us what is said and taught by many Jewish leaders, Rabbis and others about Jesus Christ. It is not just we do not believe but every possible attack they can come up with. So don't try and hide behind this "I simply do not believe Jesus is the Messiah". Be honest, you hate Him and have said as much many times. I have personally heard the hatred in Synagogue and out of Synagogue.

What you call rhetoric by Rabbi Lapin, I and others see as honesty by a Rabbi who is speaking out against the growing hatred by left wing Jews and hollywood directed towards Zionism and Jews who are right of Dustin, Babs. It is the same kind of hatred the left has of America. It is the same kind of hatred that the likes of Micheal Moore spreads.