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To: malakhi
Can you conceive of the possibility of people simply not believing that Jesus is the messiah, without 'hating' him or Christians?

Yep. But your words here and the 1st post from you are attack tacts on Christ and Gibson and the movie he made about Christ. This is not simply not believing, it has a purpose and that is clearly hate towards Gibson, his movie and the real reason being hatred of Christ. Your words reveal your heart!

I simply do not believe in Judaism as being the way to worship God, and to just say that displays no hatred. But to attack a Jewish man and a movie he made about the God of the Jews is a attack on that God. You would not even waste your time on a movie that is in your opinion a movie not worth seeing, but here you go after Gibson, the movie and Christ. You do not just reject Christ as Messiah but feel you must insult Him and all that represents Him.

And that love of Christ is not not the liberal wishy washy "I feel your pain" nonsense but a love that stands and supports Jews and Israel as if I was one. That does not mean I should agree with everything you malakhi say or represent. Quite the opposite I can love you and express my dislike of your attack on God, His Son Jesus and a man who has made a movie that reflects very well the last 12 hours of Jesus the Messiah life here on earth.

It is also no secret to us what is said and taught by many Jewish leaders, Rabbis and others about Jesus Christ. It is not just we do not believe but every possible attack they can come up with. So don't try and hide behind this "I simply do not believe Jesus is the Messiah". Be honest, you hate Him and have said as much many times. I have personally heard the hatred in Synagogue and out of Synagogue.

What you call rhetoric by Rabbi Lapin, I and others see as honesty by a Rabbi who is speaking out against the growing hatred by left wing Jews and hollywood directed towards Zionism and Jews who are right of Dustin, Babs. It is the same kind of hatred the left has of America. It is the same kind of hatred that the likes of Micheal Moore spreads.
174 posted on 02/11/2005 9:24:28 AM PST by free_life
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To: free_life
But your words here and the 1st post from you are attack tacts on Christ and Gibson and the movie he made about Christ. This is not simply not believing, it has a purpose and that is clearly hate towards Gibson, his movie and the real reason being hatred of Christ. Your words reveal your heart!

I have many friends on FR who are Christians. None of them would agree with you. Yet you, who doesn't know anything about me, nevertheless feels free to pass judgment.

I simply do not believe in Judaism as being the way to worship God, and to just say that displays no hatred. But to attack a Jewish man and a movie he made about the God of the Jews is a attack on that God.

So your disbelief in Judaism is okay, but my disbelief in Christianity is an "attack on God"? Sure, you're unbiased.

You do not just reject Christ as Messiah but feel you must insult Him and all that represents Him.

How have I 'insulted' Jesus?

and express my dislike of your attack on God, His Son

Again, you equate disbelief with "attack".

So don't try and hide behind this "I simply do not believe Jesus is the Messiah". Be honest, you hate Him

Again, you equate disbelief with "hatred".

and have said as much many times.

That's a flat-out lie.

I have personally heard the hatred in Synagogue and out of Synagogue.

Considering you equate disbelief with "attack" and "hatred", I'm sure you see "hatred" everywhere you turn.

175 posted on 02/11/2005 9:53:22 AM PST by malakhi
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