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Who's the Anti-Semite? Arguments over bad movies show perils of self-hatred
The Jewish Exponent ^ | 1/27/2005 | Jonathan S. Tobin

Posted on 02/10/2005 7:02:09 AM PST by malakhi

This week's nominations for the film industry's Oscars for the best movies of the year 2004 provided a sigh of relief to some, as it stoked the conspiracy theories harbored by others.

Nearly a year after Mel Gibson's "The Passion of the Christ" launched 1,000 commentaries, the 77th Academy Awards ceremony closes the parenthesis on this remarkable cultural phenomenon.

As much as critics blasted it -- while others condemned it for incitement of anti-Semitism -- "The Passion" turned into the surprise blockbuster of the year. As such, its popularity was widely considered a slap in the face to the liberal media/culture establishment.

So while some feared that an Oscar for Gibson or the film would revive the controversy, the unsurprising refusal of the same Hollywood elite that despised the film to honor it will cause the argument to be revisited anyway.

Let us waste no more ink debating the merits of this thoroughly bad film. But I am still interested in the way this story pushes buttons and illustrates the way some Jews look at the world.

Case in point is the way two people have hung on to the controversy and done their best to keep it alive.

They are the Anti-Defamation League's national director, Abe Foxman, and Rabbi Daniel Lapin, a Seattle-based talk-radio host and the head of a small conservative group called Toward Tradition.

Foxman led the charge against the film and its seeming reaffirmation of the myth that placed the responsibility for the death of the Christian messiah on the Jews. He also took the lion's share of blame from those who believed that Gibson used critics to hype a small film into a mega-hit.

Foxman's still smarting from that charge.

He responded in a recent Jerusalem Post opinion piece that restated his reasons for protest and his fears that those who see it in the future will be exposed to "the film's vile notions of Jews."

Blame it on Barbra

On the other end of the spectrum is Lapin, a marginal figure among Jews but someone who enjoys some notoriety among evangelicals who flocked to see the movie. At the time that most other Jews were following Foxman's lead, Lapin was part of Gibson's cheering section.

But rather than merely gloat about Foxman's discomfort, Lapin is attempting to use the "Passion" anniversary to refloat one of his own ideas. He doesn't think the real cause for anti-Semitism lies in the age-old canards that Foxman and others have sought to debunk. For the South African-born rabbi, the cause of hatred for the Jews can be found in the behavior of actors Dustin Hoffman and Barbra Streisand.

What has this famous Jewish duo done?

The answer is that they made a movie that the right-wing rabbi considered far worse than Gibson's.

For Lapin, the Streisand-Hoffman appearance in the regrettable "Meet the Fockers" wasn't merely an exercise in bad taste. For him, it was a defamation of American Jewry.

In the film -- the sequel to the extremely popular "Meet the Parents" -- Streisand and Hoffman portray the oversexed and eccentric Jewish parents of a character played by actor Ben Stiller, a dorky Jewish male nurse who's marrying a gentile goddess. The conceit of the piece lies in a visit by the girl's uptight parents to Miami, home of their Jewish hippy in-laws. Comic complications ensue, some of which deal with the stereotyped connections of the Jewish couple to Judaism.

But rather than dismiss this as cinematic nonsense, Lapin, in a piece widely distributed by his organization, considers it a prime example of how Jews are destroying American morals.

"You'd have to be a recent immigrant from Outer Mongolia not to know of the role that people with Jewish names play in the coarsening of our culture," fulminates Lapin. "Almost every American knows this. It is just that most gentiles are too polite to mention it."

Was Hitler right?

Acknowledging that any ordinary reader would be shocked at such a statement, Lapin remains undaunted, and goes even further with a quote from Adolf Hitler's Mein Kampf. Lapin observes that "that evil megalomaniac roused his nation" not through use of the deicide myth, but by noting the Jewish influence in German cultural life.

"It does not excuse Hitler or his Nazi thugs for us to acknowledge that this maniacal, master propagandist focused on a reality that resonated with the educated, and cultured Germans of his day," writes Lapin.

In other words, according to Lapin, avant-garde Jewish artists "linked Jews and deviant sexuality" in the German imagination, and so set the stage for the Shoah. He sees American Jews as similarly responsible for our country's "cultural decline" -- something that "angers more Americans than the crucifixion."

Lapin is right that some Jews on the left have been all too quick to wrongly stigmatize Christian conservatives as anti-Semites when, in fact, many are ardent supporters of Israel.

He's also right when he condemns the decline of public morality. But who but an anti-Semite or a Jew who hates liberals more than he despises Jew-haters would place the blame for this solely on the Jews?

Blaming liberals for anti-Semitism is as vile as blaming it on Jewish actors.

When Lapin claims that actors who spoof Jewish secularism are practicing anti-Semitism while at the same time rationalizing those who would single out "the Jews" as the destroyers of American decency, the rabbi has crossed the boundary from irresponsible commentary to fomenting hatred of his own people.

Out of all the loopy things that have been said and written about Gibson's film, Lapin's article qualifies as the low point of the discussion. In his zeal to condemn his foes, the talking rabbi has proven that self-hatred isn't a virus that can be solely linked to the Jewish left.

Say what you will about Foxman's dogged attempt to justify his role as Gibson's unwitting foil in last year's cultural follies. But Daniel Lapin represents an example of how "The Passion" helped motivate a cultural conservative to turn on his own people. Viewed in that context, it turns out to be a far scarier movie than anyone may have dreamed.


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KEYWORDS: antisemitism; oscars; thepassion
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To: malakhi
As to your post 176....go back and read what you have said here about Gibson, the movie and the remarks about Christ in the article you felt was important to post. Not that it is likely to help in your case.

But sure you were just being a movie critic and well it just happened to be a movie Gibson made and it just happened to be a movie about Christ who you make sure to point out is not the Messiah and it just happen to be about a Rabbi who defends Gibson and his movie. Give us a break! You can't even be honest about your motives.

Believe what you want...I have wasted enough time with you and your lack of honesty.
181 posted on 02/11/2005 10:58:29 AM PST by free_life
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To: Bella_Bru
Questioning Christian beliefs on the messiah is tantamount to degrading and/or insulting their faith. Questioning Jewish beliefs on the topic of the messiah is only, "trying to help us and keep us from burning in hell".

Sure. As I said in #175, disbelieving in Judaism is okay; disbelieving in Christianity is an "attack on God".

182 posted on 02/11/2005 10:58:41 AM PST by malakhi
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To: free_life
As to your post 176....go back and read what you have said here about Gibson, the movie and the remarks about Christ in the article you felt was important to post. Not that it is likely to help in your case.

Nope. YOU made the accusation that I 'insulted' Jesus. YOU provide the evidence to back it up. Or withdraw the accusation. Your option. Your nonresponsiveness will be taken as an admission that you cannot prove your claim.

You can't even be honest about your motives.

You haven't the foggiest clue why I posted this thread, do you?

Believe what you want.

Thank you. I do.

I have wasted enough time with you and your lack of honesty.

Buh bye.

183 posted on 02/11/2005 11:02:10 AM PST by malakhi
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To: malakhi

I said no such thing
Sure you did.


"You do not just reject Christ as Messiah but feel you must insult Him"

"my dislike of your attack on God, His Son Jesus"

"Be honest, you hate Him"



All three examples say "you" or "your" not "all non-Christians". Dig a little deeper, your hole is getting deeper! goodbye!


184 posted on 02/11/2005 11:02:56 AM PST by free_life
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To: free_life
All three examples say "you" or "your" not "all non-Christians". Dig a little deeper, your hole is getting deeper!

Um, nope, remember this?

"I have personally heard the hatred in Synagogue and out of Synagogue."

That wasn't me you were talking about, sparky.

Still waiting for you to provide evidence that I 'insulted' Jesus. Oh, and while you're at it, you can point out my "attack on God" too.

185 posted on 02/11/2005 11:09:35 AM PST by malakhi
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To: malakhi
First of all my name is not sparky. I wondered how long it would take for you to insult me! I have refrained from calling you a troll, tho the shoe fits!

Um, Yep! all 3 examples you quoted me as saying, where directed by me at you, not all non- Christians. You cannot not even debate honestly.

As for my comment, "I have personally heard the hatred in Synagogue and out of Synagogue". I have, it is a fact and in no way says that I have the opinion that all non-Christians are this way or all Jews are that way...as a matter a fact your attack piece attacks a Rabbi who is also aware of this. Again you twist and cannot debate honestly.

As for your comment - Your nonresponsiveness will be taken as an admission that you cannot prove your claim.

I did not know you were the rule master around here...should I bow before you too?

I have made it clear how you have insulted God and his Son Jesus already, you just refuse to acknowledge why you have said what you have said..

Anyways ...I will waste no more time with you..so this is your big chance to mouth off and say what you want as I will not respond to you trolling here...my only mistake is taking the bait.
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186 posted on 02/11/2005 2:13:31 PM PST by free_life
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To: free_life
I have refrained from calling you a troll

No, you've just called me "angry", "hateful" and "insulting".

tho the shoe fits!

That's funny, considering I've been here for about six years longer than you have, sparky.

in no way says that I have the opinion that all non-Christians are this way or all Jews are that way

Okay, I'll bite. Give me an example of how one could disagree with Christianity without being labelled by you as "angry", "hateful" and "insulting".

I did not know you were the rule master around here...should I bow before you too?

Nah, we're pretty informal around here. Just answering the question would be fine.

I have made it clear how you have insulted God and his Son Jesus already, you just refuse to acknowledge why you have said what you have said..

No, you haven't. Simply asserting that you've answered it doesn't change the reality that you haven't. What you did is wave your hands around and say, "go back and read what you have said here". That's not answering my question. That's asking me to go back over all my posts and try to guess what YOU found to be "insulting" and an "attack on God". Since YOU'VE made those claims, it is up to YOU to substantiate them. As far as I can tell, you're just pissed off that I don't agree with your personal religious opinions, and that I don't hesitate forthrightly to voice my disagreement. For that, you call me "hateful". Sorry sparky, but I'm not going to pretend to agree with you in order to make you feel validated in your beliefs.

I'm going offline until at least Saturday night. I'll reply to your next nonresponsive post at that time.

187 posted on 02/11/2005 2:40:49 PM PST by malakhi
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To: SJackson

bttt


188 posted on 02/11/2005 11:47:33 PM PST by lainde ( ...we are not European, we are American, and we have different principles!")
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To: Shisan
The portrayal of an average Jewish family as decadent and degenerate by Hollywood contributes to a general misperception especially when played by actors of Jewish ancestry who are decadent and degenerate. As to Barbra and Dustin, Fok them.

Could you please elaborate. What EXACTLY has Dustin Hoffman done in his private life that you consider decadent and degenerate?

189 posted on 02/14/2005 11:36:25 AM PST by ET(end tyranny) (Isa:59:20-And a redeemer will come to Zion, and unto them that turn from transgression in Jacob....)
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To: ET(end tyranny)

You are correct. That was ambiguous and I owe him an apology. But not her.


190 posted on 02/14/2005 12:08:14 PM PST by Shisan (Jalisco no te rajes.)
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