Settlement hasn't hurt Windows, Justice lawyer says (Windows continues to dominate)

Seattle PI ^ | 2/10/2005 | GREG STOHR

[amigatec]

And in other news:


Microsoft Fesses Up To 19 Vulnerabilities, MSBlast-Level Worm Likely

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1338900/posts


You still haven't responed to this post yet!!

[KwasiOwusu]

"Microsoft's dominance of the web browser market is waning "


Dream on.
Umm .. Microsoft Internet Explorer browser = 90% share.
Firefox = 5 %
I don't call that "waning"
I call that Microsoft Internet Explorer DOMINATES.


"Mozilla's Firefox browser is regarded as a superior product in many ways most importantly in offering better security"

Firefox security?
What is that? LAMO!!
Don't make me laugh.
Read this:

"It hasn't been a good week for Firefox and its fans. First, the Danish security company Secunia warned that it had uncovered a vulnerability in Firefox and other browsers that can allow the URL displayed in the address bar and the SSL certificate to be spoofed, which means the browser and others are vulnerable to phishing attacks. The flaw affects all browsers built using the open-source Gecko browser kernel.

And this time around, Internet Explorer is not vulnerable to the attack.

Making matters worse, a few days after that, a security researcher found a trio of security bugs that affect Firefox and Mozilla -- but not Internet Explorer. Among other dangers, the bugs can allow someone to steal your cookies, and then use them to find out personal information about you and log into web sites with your login.

Perhaps most disturbing is that as of this writing, although fixes have been found, they have not yet been rolled up into a patch, or made available in a new Firefox version that can be downloaded and installed."

What Firefox security?

"What's more it's free"


So what?
Internet Explorer has been free for nearly 10 years.

[KwasiOwusu]

And in other news, the Judge Says No to IBM's SCO Dismissal.

quot;IBM (Quote, Chart) was dealt a temporary setback in its efforts to dismiss the SCO Group's (Quote, Chart) lawsuit Tuesday, but the judge's comments in the matter suggest his patience is wearing thin on some of the motions.

U.S. District Court Judge Dale Kimball denied Big Blue's requests for a partial summary judgment on three motions involving SCO's claims of copyright infringement and breach of contract. SCO asserts IBM violated its Unix System V license by taking some of that code and using it to beef up the Linux kernel.

Kimball also denied IBM's request for a partial summary judgment on its claim for declaratory judgment of non-infringement, as well as a request to remove materials SCO used to refute IBM's partial summary judgment claims.

SCO officials were upbeat about the ruling. In a statement, the company said the recent court decisions bode well for a trial.

"We are pleased by the court's order denying without prejudice all three of IBM's motions to effectively dismiss SCO claims without a trial," the statement read. "Coupled with last month's ruling from the Magistrate Judge on discovery, we are now looking forward to proceeding with our case without delay and towards our day in court."

IBM officials were not available for comment at press time."



Cool!

[KwasiOwusu]

"I suppose only someone on their knees to Gates could say something like that"

About what I expect from a an open source crazy with his face firmly buried in Slick Willie Klinton's backside.
Nothing new there.

[KwasiOwusu]

;According to some web server statistics, the installed base of Windows desktop computers on the Internet appears to be shrinking "


Hehehehehehdehdehehehdehehehehde
I love it when the open source crazies clutch at straws.
Dream on.
Nice to see we still have folks with their heads in the sand here. But hey, reality was never the strong point of the open source fanatics was it?

Umm...According to the United States Government Department of Justice

"There has been "no demonstrable change in the operating system marketplace," government lawyer Renata Hesse said in Washington in response to a question from the federal judge overseeing the accord."

I'll take the US government's figures over yours any day. :)

Windows RULES.
Get over it.

[KwasiOwusu]

"That's funny I can buy a Kenworth truck WITHOUT a Motor, transmission, and rearend gears. It's called a 'Glider Kit'."

Ummm tell me.. how many cars in this country are sold without transmission again?
Almost ALL cars and trucks sold in America..and Europe ..and Japan ..and anywhere else come WITH transmission ALREADY installed.
That is why The US Appeals Court still allowed Microsoft to keep including a browser in Windows.
Obviously they have a lot more sense than you do.

[HAL9000]

I'll take the US government's figures over yours any day. :)

That attorney was referring to the "operating system marketplace" - apparently a reference to "market share" which can be measured in a variety of ways - sales revenue, units sold, etc.

I'm referring to web site "user agent statistics" which reflect the active number of users on the Internet. That gives a more accurate picture of actual use, not sales.

The figures I cited show that the overall percentage of active Windows users on the Internet is declining dramatically - down five percent in six months. That's a huge drop in the percentage of Windows users.

[KwasiOwusu]

"Thomas Penfield Jackson is going to make legal textbooks - as Exhibit A in "How *NOT* to Handle a Case.">

Penfield Jackson is a a grade "A" jackass.
That's why the entire DC Appeals Court threw Penfield Jackson off the case, and very severely admonished him.

[KwasiOwusu]

"That attorney was referring to the "operating system marketplace" - apparently a reference to "market share" which can be

That is the official US Government measurement of market share.
That is what counts.
Yours is irrelevant.

[E Rocc]

That's funny I can buy a Kenworth truck WITHOUT a Motor, transmission, and rearend gears. It's called a 'Glider Kit'.

But the overwhelming majority of cars cannot be purchased that way....nor will GM stick a Ford transmission in your car if that is your preference. And no one is suing them.

-Eric

[antiRepublicrat]

Umm .. Microsoft Internet Explorer browser = 90% share. Firefox = 5 %

IE used to be higher, Firefox used to be lower. IE's case is the definition of waning.

And this time around, Internet Explorer is not vulnerable to the attack.

The vulnerability is in the standard, so IE is not vulnerable because it doesn't properly implement standards.

Internet Explorer has been free for nearly 10 years.

Wrong. IE is part of Windows, therefore you pay for IE when you buy Windows. It's like me saying I didn't buy the lighting effects filter for Photoshop (well, bad example since I didn't pay for my personal copy of Photoshop, but the point remains.).

[hchutch]

Thomas Penfield Jackson deserved worse than what he got.

[KwasiOwusu]

"IE used to be higher, Firefox used to be lower. IE's case is the definition of waning"


Waning also means "disappearing, vanishing".

IE doesn't even come close to that.
Bottom line:IE DOMINATES today with 90% of the browser market.

"The vulnerability is in the standard, so IE is not vulnerable because it doesn't properly implement standards."

I don't care where the Firefox vulnerabilities come from, so far as they are terrible security vulnerabilities. That's all that matters. and that is what consumers care about.

"Wrong. IE is part of Windows, therefore you pay for IE when you buy Windows"

Nope.
You can download the latest versions of IE free of charge at the Microsoft web site, and it doesn't make any difference if you paid for your copy of Windows or not (most people Windows users in China, India, Indonesia and even a significant %of users in America are using pirated copies of Windows).
You can still download IE anyway.
Repeat: IE has been free for nearly 10 years.

[KwasiOwusu]

There ya go.

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/default.mspx

[ShadowAce]

Waning also means "disappearing, vanishing".

Not according to the dictionary:

wane    ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (wn)
intr.v. waned, wan·ing, wanes

1. To decrease gradually in size, amount, intensity, or degree; decline.
2. To exhibit a decreasing illuminated area from full moon to new moon.
3. To approach an end.

n.

1. The act or process of gradually declining or diminishing.
2. 1. A time or phase of gradual decrease.
   2. The period of the decrease of the moon's illuminated visible surface.
3. A defective edge of a board caused by remaining bark or a beveled end.

Idiom:
on the wane

In a period of decline or decrease: “The tide was near the turn and already the day was on the wane” (James Joyce).

[KwasiOwusu]

Here ya go.
Encarta World English Dictionary:



"Thesaurus Search Results

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"waning"

fading (adjective): declining, weakening, diminishing, disappearing, vanishing, increasing (antonym)
Related: wane""

[JoJo Gunn]

Like WOW, like, you're the, like, King of Comebacks....

[JoJo Gunn]

I think of how Firefox is offered for all platforms, and since one of your falsehoods - oops, I meant to say selling points, is that IE is "free", I have to wonder if IE is a standalone available for Linux, for example?

If not, why?

Not that anyone would want a virus carrier for Linux, of course. But in the spirit of Tolerance and Diversity, I'm trying to embrace and understand even the sleaziest of used car salesmen amongst us.

[amigatec]

But the overwhelming majority of cars cannot be purchased that way....nor will GM stick a Ford transmission in your car if that is your preference.

Look at this file here Ford has 3 motor options for their Trucks, a Ford motor, a Cat Motor, and a Cummins Motor, also notice the Transmission Option, an ALLISON, that last I knew Allison was owned by GM.

http://www.commtruck.ford.com/ctw/images/leftnav_new/tn_05_f650.jpg

Also ever look at the front brakes on a lot of Chevy 1 Ton trucks, they are the same brakes used by Ford.

Why Ford even installed BMW motors in some of the Lincoln's.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=34225&item=7953022494&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

[antiRepublicrat]

Waning also means "disappearing, vanishing". IE doesn't even come close to that.

So you pick a definition that fits your attempt to try to show the author incorrect. Pretty sad.

I don't care where the Firefox vulnerabilities come from, so far as they are terrible security vulnerabilities

Given the number of IE vulnerabilities -- specifically IE spoofing vulnerabilities -- you don't want to go there. Security is one of the main reasons people are switching.

You can still download IE anyway. Repeat: IE has been free for nearly 10 years.

You can upgrade. IE has been in Windows and funded by the Windows development budget for nearly 10 years (except for the last couple years, where they've put nothing into it), therefore it is not free. Did you know that the headlights on your car were free?