Posted on 02/09/2005 9:21:23 AM PST by Kaslin
Please stop posting to me unless you are directly responding to one of my posts. Thanks.
I thought you'd like to know who the real idiot is
It's not me, like you said, it's Hanoi Kerry
Kerry: Bush Still Hiding His Guard Records (Idiot Alert!)
NewsMax.com ^
Posted on 02/11/2005 12:19:28 PM PST by Fan_Of_Ingraham
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1341323/posts
I WON'T PING you to the truth anymore
Bye!
Did you ever read what I actually wrote?
_no one_ on this site likes Kerry. We all think he is a traitor - or at least would like to see him out of the Senate.
Let me ask you - what have you done to advance this cause of yours in your community? What state are you in? Do you attend your precinct meetings? Your county convention? Your state convention? Does your county party chairman know your name? Do the editors of your local paper know you? Have you incorporated a 501(c)-3 to press this issue?
"Did you ever read what I actually wrote?"
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1339524/posts?page=414#414
"...I give up. My life is too short to try to convince you that yours is to and you are wasting your time.
You know why Rush doesn't spend all day talking about what you think he should? Because he realises it would be an ineffective waste of time. It's the same here for you - but you don't get it and keep ranting.
Most folks here think you are a loon. You've become the village idiot of FR."
Odd Hanoi Kerry is not an idiot but I am?
"Do the editors of your local paper know you?"
Yes, as a matter of fact they do.
They know how I spend my volunteer time.
"What state are you in?"
http://www.freerepublic.com/~6869tonkingulfyachtc/
Didn't mean to have you think I meant a full resume.
Just a brief summary will do.
Someone with your talent should share it with all.
Geddy Lee Of The Canadian Rock Band Rush Sticks It To Gore
News/Current Events Front Page News
Source: Rockline
Published: 11/30/00
Posted on 11/29/2000 22:18:17 PST by My Favorite Headache
Geddy Lee the frontman bassist, vocalist, keyboardist of the Canadian Power Rock Trio Rush was on for 90 minutes tonight discussing his new solo album entitled...you guessed it "My Favorite Headache" (buy it), anyway towards the end of the 90 minute show Lee was asked about the election situation in the USA since he is a Canadian and was doing the interview in L.A. . Geddy went on to say that he feels since there is already an election decided country wide in Canada and in Mexico and a President is picked and a government in 30 days that the USA spends way too much time on their elections and that Gore is now spending more of the USA's money dragging it on.
He said it was democracy in action that is for sure but there is a time when one has to realize that it is over no matter what it is for the best of the people and the country. Judging voter intent is bordering ludicrious and hoped for our sakes that it will end the way the laws intended it to be.
...Hollywood like...
...But whatever he has is, well ...addicting...
... It's truly amazing what he can do with a pile of dubious news stories...
...[a prodigy] of the new media...
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"...Mr. Webster has extensive military and civilian legal experience, and will be discussing the implications of Kerry's strange 1978 DD-214 discharge certificate that appears to represent an upgrade from an undisclosed less-than-honorable discharge...."
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This is out today, thanks to Dr. Jerome Corsi:
(FReeper jrlc AND who is co-author of Unfit for Command)
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=42810
SF180 forms to flood Kerry's office
Posted: February 11, 2005
1:00 a.m. Eastern
© 2005 WorldNetDaily.com
So now John Kerry has told both Tim Russert on "Meet the Press" and Don
Imus on his morning MSNBC-broadcast radio show that he will sign
Standard Form 180. But when? Sometime before 2008, when he has to run
for re-election in Massachusetts for the Senate?
A group has formed to help Kerry out. Called "KerrysTreason.com," the
group has created a website on which they have archived Standard Form
180, in PDF format. The group is calling for a campaign to flood Kerry's
Senate office with SF180s sent in from all over America. The website
gives Kerry's Washington office address and lists specific instructions
for printing the SF180 and sending it in.
The site was created by Amanda Prewett Doss, the daughter of Vietnam
veteran, Capt. Glen Prewett, and by Carol Gell Crowley, daughter of
Vietnam veteran, Sgt. Jack Gell. At the "Kerry Lied" rally held by the
Vietnam Veterans for the Truth during the 2004 presidential campaign,
Carol Crowley gave a moving speech expressing her love for her father.
Carol brought the large crowd assembled on the U.S. Capitol grounds to
tears when she recalled how her father's last words when dying from
combat wounds in Vietnam were for his wife and family back home.
Then, in the Mel Gibson 2002 movie, "We Were Soldiers," the story about
the battle of the Ia Drang Valley in Vietnam in 1965, known as the
"Valley of Death," a young Sgt. Jack Gell cried as he died, "Tell my
wife I love her ..." Carol saw the movie and lived all over again the
anguish of losing her father in battle, fighting for freedom.
Amanda and Carol have issued a statement which expresses their strong
opposition to Sen. Kerry's 2004 presidential run:
It's about honor, and John Kerry's lack of it. It's about betrayal of
the worst kind. John Kerry gave aid and comfort to the enemy, while our
troops lay dying on the battlefield. He betrayed his fellow military and
his country.
KerrysTreason.com wants the senator held accountable. Read the site and
you will see an argument that Kerry should be impeached for treason. The
group wants support for launching impeachment proceedings to remove
Kerry from the Senate. "This conflict will last as long as John Kerry
remains a senator and poises himself to ever run again. To restore
tranquility to the memories of the Vietnam War, John Kerry must be held
accountable for his treasonous actions and statements, and efforts will
continue to ensure that he does not whitewash. That is why we will not
just go away."
The group is sponsored by the online newspaper, U.S. Veteran Dispatch,
whose publisher is Ted Sampley. There is no love lost between John Kerry
and Ted Sampley. During the 2004 presidential campaign, Sampley, a
Vietnam veteran, himself, got considerable notice for an encounter with
presidential candidate John Kerry. Sampley invited Kerry to leave the
area of "The Wall" and Kerry, in front of a public audience at the
Memorial in Washington, D.C., replied by flipping Sampley the bird.
Rush is right to talk about the Border, Roger was instrumental in getting the border fence put up here in San Diego.. with Muriel Watson. who started lite up the border. where citzens went and lit up the border area with head lites, and it drew enuff media attention.. and believe u it also drew a lot of protester and threats..but with Rogers help and persistence by our group.. a border fence, with the Help of Rep Duncan Hunter we have a 14 mile of almost triple fence except for the last 3 miles going into the ocean at the US most south western point, this area was just approved in congress this week.. this stopped a great influx of illegals entering into out country. Roger has done an immense amount of work with border issues.. because it is in our back yard..and it affects every one living in this area... Roger is taking a group of private citzens (paying our own way) to DC in April to be joined by other groups encouraged by conservative talk show hosts, to a "hold their feet to the fire" with congress ppl.. and immigration will be the topic..to try and convince congress that immigration needs to be dealt with NOW.
Nice article and more power to the General for getting this out there but what has Rush got to do with believing Mr. Day? I have not heard it or seen it anywhere where Rush has contradicted him.
Look dude I am all for your cause but if you want people on your side it works better if you don't attack them first.
"Nice article and more power to the General for getting this out there but what has Rush got to do with believing Mr. Day?"
His letter was published on FR BEFORE the election.
We know Rush reads FR
Rush should have at least read his letter.
"Look dude I am all for your cause but if you want people on your side it works better if you don't attack them first."
It's not just MY cause.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1339524/posts?page=513#513
has all the details.
Hopefully Rush will join in.
As I said in an earlier post
"I don't know about anybody else, but I quit watching
Main Stream Right Wing Media
and listening to Main Stream Right Wing Radio
shortly after Nov 3.
I couldn't understand how the so called
Main Stream Right Wing Media
could say things like
"Senator Kerry was gracious in his concession speech..."
"Senator Kerry was so honorable..."
Etc"
Also see
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1339524/posts?page=512#512
http://www.rightalk.com/
is free and runs 24/7
Rush may get 20 million listeners BUT the internet is the new media.
Rush is only on 15 hours a week, max.
First off you need to apologize for your post #491 in which you took what I said out of context and gave it your own perverted meaning because you could not deal with the reasoned contents of my original post. You seemed so upset when this was done to your post so I would think you would want to correct your mistake when you purposely did it to someone else.
Secondly quit ducking the issue and point out what Rush has done wrong. Just because he has not read this letter on his show does not make him the problem. And since you don't listen to his show you don't want other people to listen to Rush's show because he is a cino in your own words what difference does it make to you if Rush reads this letter?
Thirdly if Rush is not reaching enough people as you say then why do you insist on him reading the letter if your new media web site is reaching more people?
Fourth Rush has mentioned Kerry on Form 180 on his radio show. And since he did it before the election when it really counted like Mr. Bud Day then what is your problem with Rush? Here is part of two transcripts from Rush’s show:
Political Disaster Brews for Kerry
October 29, 2004
Listen to Rush…
(…play very some very revealing Kerry answers to Tom Brokaw)
BEGIN TRANSCRIPT
RUSH: What happened to Kerry last night on the Nightly News, sticking with the explosive story as the centerpiece of his campaign by telling Brokaw it's not unfair to blame Bush for this. Now, keep in mind here: What Kerry did was accuse the president of not having a plan to secure the weapons. Today thanks to the Pentagon briefer and that Army major we found the president and the military did have a plan to secure the weapons. They not only had a plan, they executed a plan to secure weapons! They did it! They were competent. Brokaw's question, "This week you've been very critical of the president because of the missing explosives in Iraq. The fact is, senator, we still don't know what happened to those explosives. How many for sure that were there; who might have gotten away with them. Is unfair to the president just as you believe he's unfair to you, to blame him for that?"
KERRY: No. It's not unfair. Because what we do know from the commanders on the ground is that they went there as they marched to Baghdad. You can read stories today that they broke locks off of the doors, took photographs of materials in there -- there were materials -- and they left.
RUSH: Nooooooo, they didn't, senator. We have just learned today, senator, they didn't just take photographs of the materials in there and leave. They didn't leave, senator. Well, they left, but they took weapons and explosives with them when they left. That's why this is a political disaster brewing for Senator Kerry today, because a totally believable major in the United States Army, Austin Pearson, clearly explained how he went in, found stuff at this dump, and removed 250 tons of it. He just didn't "take pictures" of it. The next bite, Brokaw follows up with this, "But the flip side of that is if you had been president, Saddam Hussein would still be in power."
KERRY: Not necessarily at all.
BROKAW: Well, you have said you wouldn't go to war against him.
KERRY: That's not true, because under the inspection process Saddam Hussein was required to destroy those kinds of materials and weapons --
BROKAW: But he wasn't destroying.
KERRY: -- and we would. That's what you have inspectors for.
RUSH: Stop the tape, stop the tape. This is where Kerry is stepping in it all over the place. Congratulations, Tom Brokaw. Brokaw says, "But he wasn't destroying them," and Kerry says, "Well, that's what you have the inspectors for." The inspectors left! The inspectors didn't destroy anything; they tagged things! In fact the inspectors were ordered to destroy things, we're talking about all the way back to 1995, and the IAEA didn't do it. Inspectors ordered these very weapons that we're talking about, these explosives, were ordered destructed in NBC, and Mohammed ElBaradei and Hans Blix didn't think they were big enough and important enough because they didn't think they had any relation to WMD programs so they didn't destroy them. The inspectors ordered the IAEA; Kerry's most favored place in the world, the UN, didn't destroy them. And so this answer -- go back to the top of this. This whole answer is just, it's just a gold mine to illustrate John Kerry's incompetence. Again the question: "But the flip side of that is, is that if you had been president, Saddam Hussein would still be in power." Well, it's still cueing up but when it gets cued up I want to play this whole answer from the top because you will hear contradictions here in Kerry's first five or six sentences.
KERRY: Not necessarily at all.
BROKAW: Well, you have said you wouldn't go to war against him.
KERRY: That's not true. Because under the inspection process, Saddam Hussein was required to destroy those kinds of materials and weapons --
BROKAW: But he wasn't destroying them.
KERRY: But... and that's what you have inspectors for. And that's why I voted for the threat of force because he only does things when you have a legitimate threat of force. It's absolutely impossible and irresponsible to suggest that if I were president he wouldn't necessarily be gone. He might be gone, because if he hadn't complied we might have had to go to war and we might have gone to war. But if he did, I'll tell you this, Tom, we'd have gone to war with allies in a way that the American people weren't carrying the burden and the entire world understood why we were doing it.
RUSH: The entire world understood why we were doing it. The question is... The entire world, very small portion of the world, two of the three countries that you hold dear didn't agree with what we were doing, senator: France and Germany. You would have stopped this because of France and Germany. Your global test would have prevented you in going in there. You can sit here and use hindsight all day long and say, "Well, Saddam only reacted to the threat of force." You didn't want any threat of force back in 1990 with the first Gulf War. You voted against that threat -- not only the threat but the use of force back then, senator. It is very responsible to suggest that if you were president you wouldn't necessarily have gotten rid of Saddam Hussein because you've just said in this same bite you would have let the inspection process and sanctions play out, and you wouldn't have gone in there anyway because you'd have never gotten France and Germany to go with you because they were on the take. Saddam was paying them via the oil-for-food program to vote against us, Senator Kerry, your precious United Nations. One more bite. Brokaw says: "You know, somebody has analyzed the president's military aptitude tests and yours, examine they've concluded that President Bush has a higher IQ than you do, senator."
KERRY: That's great. More power. I don't know how they've done it because my record isn't out in the public, so... But I don't know where you're getting that from.
RUSH: Oh, really? Your record isn't public, senator? I thought you had made your military records all public. I thought they were all on your website, senator. Now you admit that your records aren't public? See, this bothers him. Brokaw says that military analysts have concluded Bush has a higher IQ than Kerry. So Kerry, he can't handle this. So he screws up by saying, "I don't know. My records haven't been released." Yeah, senator, and why not? Is it because there's a questionable passage there on your discharge, senator? Is that why you won't sign Form 180 to release all your records? Is there some question about your honorable discharge, senator? ( 1 | 2 ) Hmm?
END TRANSCRIPT
Press Buried Kerry Facts
November 8, 2004
Listen to Rush…
(...list some of the vote-changing Kerry facts the partisan press simply didn't report)
BEGIN TRANSCRIPT
I mentioned a minute ago, we went through some of the media myths that were passed off as media truths. I'm gonna go look at some things here via our friends at the AmericanThinker.com, a great conservative blogger site out there, and the column here is called, "Reading Tea Leaves." It's by "Nathan Hale," and this is all about the things that the media knew about John Kerry, but weren't interested in -- and believe me, folks I left this out, the media got Bush a lot of votes. The media organized a lot of Republicans. The media contributed to this notion that this was not fair, that there was a bunch of cheating go on, and it steeled the resolve of people who didn't agree with them rather than persuade them. Another reason why I tell you you ought to be confident about where your country is right now. Here are a few stories the mainstream press couldn't have cared less about.
"John Kerry was quite possibly less than honorably discharged by the Navy. The facts surrounding this case have been documented by the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth and The New York Sun [ 1 | 2 ].... Kerry refused to sign the Standard Form 180 and at least 100 pages of his military record remain hidden from view." The question ask yourself is: "Can anyone seriously contemplate a Republican managing to run for office as a war hero without releasing such records?" Do you know what Dan Rather and Mary Mapes would have been spending their time on trying to find, and when they found it, do you think they would have just kept it a secret? If there was a rumor that Bush had been dishonorably discharged that's all we would have heard about. With John Kerry, there was no interest whatsoever in the mainstream press.
"John Kerry is a cancer survivor who refused to release his medical records," and Clinton didn't either. The press didn't care. "The fact that Kerry is a cancer survivor who did not release his records, after the death of Paul Tsongas during what might have been his presidency, is entirely germane to voters' consideration of him. If Rudy Giuliani runs for president in '08, and he doesn't release his medical records, do you think the press is going to let him get away with it? (pause) Doubt it. A third one: "John Kerry and Teresa Heinz released less financial information than any candidate in history. We all know about the 'failed Arkansas land deal' and the trauma that caused our country. What would have happened if...links between Teresa's fortune and radical Democrats and their 527s had been documented only after the election? We do not have enough proof to declare Ms. Heinz guilty of anything. But the appearance of impropriety certainly follows her around like a cloud...
"The simple fact is that no one knows how many of Kerry's 55 million voters would have voted for Bush or simply withheld their vote for Kerry had they had better information," about where she was spending her money and what her full tax burden was and how few and little taxes she was paying. The mainstream press did not report the stuff about her tax rate being an effective 12.8%. They were not interested in that story -- and, of course, they were never interested at all in what the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth had to say. So there are a number of things that were big news out there but that the media was not interested in. So they constructed a bunch of myths that were not true about Kerry, promulgated those, and ignored a bunch of things that were -- or at least were curious and had they been items of a Republican candidate, no money would have been spared digging to the bottom of it to find out what it was.
END TRANSCRIPT
Once again I do not see the relevance of your bashing Rush as it relates to the contents of Mr. Bud Day's letter. On one hand you insist that Rush is meaningless and then other you want him to be your spokes person. Which is it?
And also when Rush covers this story
It ran on Radio FR 0n 1/31/05
All programs are replayed for 24 hours and again on weekends so tune in when it’s convenient for YOU!
"...Mr. Webster has extensive military and civilian legal experience, and will be discussing the implications of Kerry's strange 1978 DD-214 discharge certificate that appears to represent an upgrade from an undisclosed less-than-honorable discharge...."
Here the REAL stories that MAIN Stream Right Wing Media refuse to carry!
http://www.rightalk.com/
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1332730/posts
01/31/2005
And this story
This was on FR also but not covered by Rush
You did go to http://www.wintersoldier.com right?
September 6, 2004 -- **BREAKING** In Yesterday's Lies: Steve Pitkin and the Winter Soldiers, Scott Swett tells the story of a former VVAW member and participant in the Winter Soldier Investigation who states that John Kerry and others pressured him to give false testimony about American atrocities in Vietnam.
After more than 33 years, Pitkin is the first Winter Soldier "witness" to file a legal affadavit regarding that event...
AFFIDAVIT OF STEVEN J. PITKIN combat veteran of the Vietnam War (Kerry pressured him to give false Winter Soldier testimony)
http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/staticpages/index.php?page=PitkinAff
Pitkin Affidavit
AFFIDAVIT OF STEVEN J. PITKIN
STATE OF FLORIDA
COUNTY OF PALM BEACH
Before me, the undersigned authority, personally appeared Steven J. Pitkin, known, to me to be the person whose name is subscribed to this instrument, who, after first being duly sworn by me, upon oath stated:
1. My name is Steven J. Pitkin. I am over the age of twenty-one years, and I am fully competent and able to make this affidavit. I am able to swear, as I do hereby swear, that all facts and statements contained in this affidavit are true and correct and within my personal knowledge.
2. I am a combat veteran of the Vietnam War, having served with the Ninth Division of the U.S. Army beginning 25 May 1969. A mortar explosion wounded me, my wounds gradually became infected, and I was treated in an Army hospital in Okinawa. I contracted hepatitis C from blood transfusions I received during that time. I left Vietnam on 28 August 1969 and was honorably discharged from the Army on 9 September 1970.
3. Medals received for my Army service include: Combat Infantry Badge, Army Commendation Medal, National Defense Service Medal, Vietnam Service Medal, Vietnam Campaign Medal, RVN Cross of Gallantry, Air Medal, Purple Heart.
4. During my service in Vietnam, I neither witnessed nor participated in any American war crimes or atrocities against civilians, nor was I ever aware of any such actions. I did witness the results of Vietcong atrocities against Vietnamese civilians, including the murder of tribal leaders.
5. Upon my return to the United States I encountered anti-war protestors who, at various times, threw feces, spit, and screamed obscenities.
6. I joined Vietnam Veterans Against the War (VVAW), at Catonsville Community College in Baltimore in 1970.
7. In January of 1971, I rode in a van with John Kerry, a national leader of the VVAW, and others from Washington D.C. to Detroit to attend the Winter Soldier Investigation, a conference intended to publicize alleged American war crimes in Vietnam. Having no knowledge of such war crimes, I did not intend to speak at the event.
8. During the Winter Soldier Investigation, John Kerry and other leaders of that event pressured me to testify about American war crimes, despite my repeated statements that I could not honestly do so. One event leader strongly implied that I would not be provided transportation back to my home in Baltimore, Maryland, if I failed to comply. Kerry and other leaders of the event instructed me to publicly state that I had witnessed incidents of rape, brutality, atrocities and racism, knowing that such statements would necessarily be untrue.
9. In April 1971, I attended a VVAW protest in Washington D.C. known as “Dewey Canyon III.” During this event I was present when protestors, including John Kerry, threw medals and ribbons over a fence outside the U.S. Capitol. I witnessed a man holding a bag of ribbons and medals and handing them out to other protestors. I saw that many of the ribbons and medals were not those that would be received by veterans of combat in Vietnam.
10. During the “Dewey Canyon III” protest, others and I confronted protestors who were wearing or carrying Vietcong flags.
11. After the “Dewey Canyon III” protest, I was no longer invited to meetings of the VVAW in Baltimore, and ended my association with the organization.
12. I joined the 5/20th Special Forces Group of the Maryland National Guard in 1974, was graduated from paratrooper “jump school” with honors in 1976, joined the Coast Guard in 1978 and served there until my retirement in May 1997.
(signed) Steven J. Pitkin
Further affiant saith not.
Subscribed and sworn to before me this 15th Day of September, 2004.
Jonathan Feldman
Commission # DD235268
My commission expires July 28, 2007
Steve Pitkin Affadavit, August 31, 2004
http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/staticpages/index.php?page=PitkinAff
Steve Pitkin DD-214
http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/graphics/PitkinDD214.jpg
Steve Pitkin WSI testimony
http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/staticpages/index.php?page=PitkinWSI
Steve Pitkin WSI video clips -- February 1, 1971 (4:16, 1.6MB)
http://www.wintersoldier.com/video/pitkin2.wmv
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