Posted on 02/08/2005 6:21:02 PM PST by qam1
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Very few of the kids from the anti-war crowd are in the military. Thank goodness.
It seems that class and maturity skipped a generation.
"Anti-war generation watches its children go to war"
I'm sick of my generation being called the "Anti-War" generation. The morons who entertained the news cameras way back then were few and far between, but they got all the publicity. Millions of my generation were clean cut, had jobs, got drafted, never took drugs, cut our hair, washed, went to church, and raised our children to be moral contributing members of our country. A few thousand scum-bags got all the press. I'm tired of it. My generation was NOT anti-war; we were very patriotic.
Like one of our local Clevealnd news dudes (Gib Shanley) used to say immediately after the anchors and anchorettes gushed and gooed over the "ten thousand" protester who might have shown up at some pot-smoking anti-war demo, "Yes, but over 170 million Americans DID NOT protest."
See
Anti-war woman's trip to see son serving in Iraq has surprises for both
good post
RE: These kids have Sept. 11. It did something to them."
And that is a healthy reaction. Why didn't their folks react the same way?
Not really. Two and a half million boomers served in Vietnam. 58,000 never came home. Another three or four million served in the Armed Forces elswhere. Actually, quite a bit more than today. The military was much larger. Those who served in the period of Vietnam need not take a back seat to their children in Iraq and Afghanistan. They all serve their country. They all will return with their honor and class.
RE: My generation was NOT anti-war; we were very patriotic.
With all due respect, percentage wise, the Baby Boomers had an unbelievably large faction of neer do wells. Perhaps not where you grew up, but in the same areas that are "blue" voting areas today, it was like a nightmare. I was barely old enough to understand what all the "big kids" were up to at the time, but the whole thing was quite wierd to me. Sorry if this offends you, but that's how I saw it.
Hmm. Good perspective.
I'm on the cusp between Boomer and Xer - my troops are my kids, chronologically. This hunting trip is going to be interesting.
I'll never forget, just a few months after 9/11 FOX had a report on new recruits in the Army. There's this kid fresh out of high school, still in boot camp saying, "To my brothers in the Special Forces, I'm coming as fast as I can."
Calling them the "Anti War Generation" is pretty disingenuous and agenda-motivated: the name should not frame the minority.
"America was losing or had lost in Vietnam"
I beg to differ.
I beg to set the record straight. Ho Chi Min himself said that they were on the verge of suing for peace when a certain Navy Leiutenant decided to lie in front of Congress, and charge American Soldiers with war crimes. He said the subsequent backlash, and propaganda locomotive it created was the reason they were able to push the U.S. out of South Vietnam. The other fact is that we won more than 80% of the battles that were faught in Vietnam. The NVA could retreat behind the 38th and regroup; we didn't have that luxery.
So, in retrospect, thanks a whole lot HoChiMin Kerry and Hanoi Jane Fonda for selling out your own people to a bunch of communists.
the 100 to 1 is in our favor of course.
I agree, especially when so many (something on the level of 2 million over the entire course of the war) were sent to fight there. Another couple of million served during the Vietnam era but never were sent. It is unfortunate that the actual minority of that aged population garnered so much attention. And that they were allowed to disrespect men and women in uniform the way they did.
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