'The seven deadly sins are outdated' (lust & gluttony are OK now, hypocrisy & bigotry move up)

Sunday Times (South Africa) ^ | Tuesday February 08, 2005 09:20 - (SA)

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LONDON - The Seven Deadly Sins - anger, gluttony, sloth, envy, pride, lust and greed - are out of date and should include cruelty, adultery and bigotry, the results of an opinion poll suggest.

Greed is the only one of the seven that should remain a sin in today's Britain, according to the poll by the Mori organisation for BBC television's "Heaven and Earth" programme.

Cruelty was ranked the worst sin by 39% of respondents, followed by adultery (11%), bigotry (8%), dishonesty (seven percent), hypocrisy (six percent), greed (6%) and selfishness (5%).

"Attitudes towards sin have changed. We're less concerned with the seven deadly sins and more concerned with actions that hurt others," said Ross Kelly, presenter of "Heaven and Earth", a religion and ethics programme.

Of the 1,001 adults interviewed, only 9% said they had not committed any of the sins. 79% said they were guilty of anger - while 41% of men and 26% of women said lust was the sin they "most enjoy committing".

AFP

[KC_Conspirator]

Yes, Unitarians - the only place where you can go to church and not see or hear the name Jesus.

And "hypocrisy" is just something that infantile leftists use everytime someone promoting values falls short because they are only human.

[Go_Raiders]

Pop Quiz for the group:

Who first published the Seven Deadly Sin list, and When?

[DarkSavant]

Aquinas I believe.

[ViLaLuz]

More secular humanist - relativism crap.

[Rocketman]

You are correct Sir.

The Seven Deadlies were originated by Pope St. Gregory the Great. The following are Roman Catholic web pages regarding him: http://www.monksofadoration.org/gregory.html http://christdesert.org/noframes/scholar/benedict/st.gregory.html

(This is a quote from a Catholic regarding their origin) He apparently was familiar with an early list made by St. John Cassian, both men had been thinking about the basic attitudes behind sin.

(Another quote from a Catholic) The list does not exist in Scripture as such, but all seven are proscribed throughout, especially in the Epistles of St. Paul and James.

[yankeedame]

G-d will immediately change the moral code of the universe to keep within the trends of modern society.

Why not? The western christanity seems to be doing it. The RCC itself went from being timeless to "contempory".

[Go_Raiders]

DingDingDing - TonyRo76 is our winner!

Gregory the Great published the list ("Moralia in Job") in the 6th Century. Our Pastor amused us a couple of weeks ago (we're covering the Seven in Church this month) when he wondered if any one whose appellation was "The Great" should be warning others about the sin of Pride.

It is interesting to see how each sin is addressed many times over by Jesus and His Disciples. They just didn't come up with a catchy title and address them in a sequence.

[WhiteGuy]

Thankfully, Cynicism, Sarcasm and Flatulence are still OK.

I'm good for a while longer...................

[yankeedame]

The Seven Virtues

When Pope Gregory defined the seven deadly sins that we should avoid, he also included a counter-balancing set of values that we should espouse and adopt. These are:

• Faith: belief in the right things (including the virtues!).
• Hope: taking a positive future view, that good will prevail.
• Charity: concern for, and active helping of, others.
• Fortitude: never giving up.
• Justice being fair and equitable with others.
• Prudence: showing carefulness and forsight, avoiding rashness.
• Temperance: moderation of needed things and abstinence from things which are not needed.

  The first three of these are known as the Spiritual Virtues, whilst the last four are called the Chief or Natural Virtues.

  The Natural Virtues had already been defined by Greek philosophers. The Spiritual Virtues are a slight variation on St. Paul's trio of Love, Hope and Faith (strange how love has disappeared!).

  There are also a number of other sets of seven virtues, including:

  The Seven Contrary Virtues which are specific opposites to the Seven Deadly Sins:

  • Humility against pride
  • Kindness against envy
  • Abstinence against gluttony
  • Chastity against lust
  • Patience against anger
  • Liberality against envy, and
  • Diligence against sloth.

    The Seven Corporal Works of Mercy are a medieval list of things you can do to help others:

    • feed the hungry,
    • give drink to the thirsty,
    • give shelter to strangers,
    • clothe the naked,
    • visit the sick,
    • minister to prisoners, and,
    • bury the dead.

      The Seven Bushido Virtues:

      • Right decisions,
      • Valor,
      • Benevolence,
      • Respect,
      • Honesty,
      • Honor, and
      • Loyalty.

        ---

        http://changingminds.org/explanations/values/seven_virtues.htm

[DainBramage]

"Ignoring the checkpoint in Fallujah" #8 added by W. George Bush the nearly Great 2004

[TRY ONE]

Galatians's Ch. 5: 19-21

Now the deeds of the flesh are evident, which are: immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmities, strife, jealousy, outbursts of anger, disputes, dissensions, factions, envying, drunkenness, carousing, and things like these....

[Cicero]

No one ever said that cruelty and adultery weren't sins.

But the essence of this revision is in this statement: "Attitudes towards sin have changed. We're less concerned with the seven deadly sins and more concerned with actions that hurt others." It's just another version of "victimless crimes" and "consenting adults."

The problem is, of course, that all sins hurt the perpetrator as well as those near to him. Revisionists want to pretend that they don't, but according to long experience they do.

Take adultery, for instance. Many moderns have argued that it does no harm, but of course it does. Evidently those who were polled recognized that. Nothing here about incest, but presumably most people would recognize that that does harm too. And so forth. Traditional morality is built on a basis of long historical experience as well as divine revelation.

[Vision]

I've never understood why pride is a sin. You shouldn't take pride in yourself and life? That's crazy!

[aimhigh]

Once the liberals are done, the only sin will be calling anything a sin.

[Vision]

Thanks, so why is lust a sin?

[ThanhPhero]

These "preferred" sins are all merely subheadings of the original seven.