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'The seven deadly sins are outdated' (lust & gluttony are OK now, hypocrisy & bigotry move up)
Sunday Times (South Africa) ^
| Tuesday February 08, 2005 09:20 - (SA)
Posted on 02/08/2005 7:23:05 AM PST by dead
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To: ClearCase_guy
Yes, Unitarians - the only place where you can go to church and not see or hear the name Jesus.
And "hypocrisy" is just something that infantile leftists use everytime someone promoting values falls short because they are only human.
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posted on
02/08/2005 8:18:01 AM PST
by
KC_Conspirator
(This space outsourced to India)
To: Rocketman
Pop Quiz for the group:
Who first published the Seven Deadly Sin list, and When?
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posted on
02/08/2005 8:20:49 AM PST
by
Go_Raiders
("Being able to catch well in a crowd just means you can't get open, that's all." -- James Lofton)
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To: Go_Raiders
To: dead
More secular humanist - relativism crap.
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posted on
02/08/2005 8:44:33 AM PST
by
ViLaLuz
To: TonyRo76
You are correct Sir.
The Seven Deadlies were originated by Pope St. Gregory the Great. The following are Roman Catholic web pages regarding him: http://www.monksofadoration.org/gregory.html http://christdesert.org/noframes/scholar/benedict/st.gregory.html
(This is a quote from a Catholic regarding their origin) He apparently was familiar with an early list made by St. John Cassian, both men had been thinking about the basic attitudes behind sin.
(Another quote from a Catholic) The list does not exist in Scripture as such, but all seven are proscribed throughout, especially in the Epistles of St. Paul and James.
To: Lazamataz
G-d will immediately change the moral code of the universe to keep within the trends of modern society.Why not? The western christanity seems to be doing it. The RCC itself went from being timeless to "contempory".
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posted on
02/08/2005 9:00:35 AM PST
by
yankeedame
("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
To: TonyRo76; DarkSavant
DingDingDing - TonyRo76 is our winner!
Gregory the Great published the list ("Moralia in Job") in the 6th Century. Our Pastor amused us a couple of weeks ago (we're covering the Seven in Church this month) when he wondered if any one whose appellation was "The Great" should be warning others about the sin of Pride.
It is interesting to see how each sin is addressed many times over by Jesus and His Disciples. They just didn't come up with a catchy title and address them in a sequence.
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posted on
02/08/2005 9:12:49 AM PST
by
Go_Raiders
("Being able to catch well in a crowd just means you can't get open, that's all." -- James Lofton)
To: TonyRo76
Thankfully, Cynicism, Sarcasm and Flatulence are still OK.
I'm good for a while longer...................
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posted on
02/08/2005 9:15:31 AM PST
by
WhiteGuy
("a taxpayer dollar must be spent wisely, or not at all" - GW BUSH)
To: Rio
The Seven VirtuesWhen Pope Gregory defined the seven deadly sins that we should avoid, he also included a counter-balancing set of values that we should espouse and adopt. These are:
- Faith: belief in the right things (including the virtues!).
- Hope: taking a positive future view, that good will prevail.
- Charity: concern for, and active helping of, others.
- Fortitude: never giving up.
- Justice being fair and equitable with others.
- Prudence: showing carefulness and forsight, avoiding rashness.
- Temperance: moderation of needed things and abstinence from things which are not needed.
The first three of these are known as the Spiritual Virtues, whilst the last four are called the Chief or Natural Virtues.
The Natural Virtues had already been defined by Greek philosophers. The Spiritual Virtues are a slight variation on St. Paul's trio of Love, Hope and Faith (strange how love has disappeared!).
There are also a number of other sets of seven virtues, including:
The Seven Contrary Virtues which are specific opposites to the Seven Deadly Sins:
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posted on
02/08/2005 9:17:40 AM PST
by
yankeedame
("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
To: TonyRo76
"Ignoring the checkpoint in Fallujah" #8 added by W. George Bush the nearly Great 2004
To: dead
Galatians's Ch. 5: 19-21
Now the deeds of the flesh are evident, which are: immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmities, strife, jealousy, outbursts of anger, disputes, dissensions, factions, envying, drunkenness, carousing, and things like these....
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posted on
02/08/2005 9:27:07 AM PST
by
TRY ONE
(NUKE the unborn gay whales!)
To: dead
No one ever said that cruelty and adultery weren't sins.
But the essence of this revision is in this statement: "Attitudes towards sin have changed. We're less concerned with the seven deadly sins and more concerned with actions that hurt others." It's just another version of "victimless crimes" and "consenting adults."
The problem is, of course, that all sins hurt the perpetrator as well as those near to him. Revisionists want to pretend that they don't, but according to long experience they do.
Take adultery, for instance. Many moderns have argued that it does no harm, but of course it does. Evidently those who were polled recognized that. Nothing here about incest, but presumably most people would recognize that that does harm too. And so forth. Traditional morality is built on a basis of long historical experience as well as divine revelation.
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posted on
02/08/2005 10:25:50 AM PST
by
Cicero
(Marcus Tullius)
To: dead; All
I've never understood why pride is a sin. You shouldn't take pride in yourself and life? That's crazy!
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posted on
02/08/2005 10:28:58 AM PST
by
Vision
(The New York Times...All the news to fit a one world government)
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To: dead
Once the liberals are done, the only sin will be calling anything a sin.
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posted on
02/08/2005 12:39:06 PM PST
by
aimhigh
To: TonyRo76
Thanks, so why is lust a sin?
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posted on
02/08/2005 12:40:04 PM PST
by
Vision
(The New York Times...All the news to fit a one world government)
To: dead
These "preferred" sins are all merely subheadings of the original seven.
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posted on
02/08/2005 1:25:36 PM PST
by
ThanhPhero
(di hanh huong den La Vang)
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