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To: Ichneumon
Gee, if you say "all dispute is over"--I guess it's over! We shall now bow and scrape. Say "om". What a relief. Does this make you pope, or something?

There is no religious fanatic so obnoxious as the doctrinaire PhD crank longing for tenure and relevance.

41 posted on 02/08/2005 5:22:47 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Mamzelle

If Pope said that, would that make a difference to you?


47 posted on 02/08/2005 5:31:19 AM PST by neutrality
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To: Mamzelle
Gee, if you say "all dispute is over"--I guess it's over! We shall now bow and scrape. Say "om". What a relief. Does this make you pope, or something?

Just stating the facts, son.

If that bothers you, then *you're* also invited to tackle the part of my post you're trying to pretend you didn't see:

If you disagree, feel free to provide alternative explanations accounting for ALL the mountains of available evidence which explains *all* of the evidence (not just some small corner of it, *ALL* of it) in a way that a) makes actual sense, and b) somehow explains why all the evidence "just happens" to point strongly towards evolutionary processes if in fact they never actually happened. Go for it.
We all await the elucidation which is sure to come from your great intellect and massive knowledge on this subject.

Really, the world of science is just dying for further helpful insights from you on these active research topics. Please review the papers in my post and get back to us with your dissertations on them. Since you take exception to my assessment, then surely something *must* be wrong with all of these findings -- please identify the errors for us. Have your mommy explain the bigger words if you need assistance.

And that goes for the rest of the anti-evolution know-it-alls on these thread as well. Come on, folks, show us what ya got. Since you're such self-proclaimed experts on evolutionary biology, this should be a piece of cake for y'all. Now's your chance, go for it. If evolution is the nonsense you claim it is, feel free to point out what's wrong with each of these papers, and what theory you've got that better explains the results and observations (*ALL* of them, not just one or two isolated observations).

Once you've finished with those, I'll post a few thousand more for you, but hey, that should be no problem for you "experts", you've got it all figured out already, right?

There is no religious fanatic so obnoxious as the doctrinaire PhD crank longing for tenure and relevance.

Are you under the mistaken impression that having nothing more substantive to add this petulant whining is going to help make you appear less of a "religious fanatic", less "obnoxious", or less of a "doctrinaire crank" than those whom you accuse who do actual research and support their positions with evidence?

Because if so, it's not working.

48 posted on 02/08/2005 5:31:59 AM PST by Ichneumon
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To: Mamzelle

Are you being obtuse for a reason? That extremely long post presented just a small scintilla of the evidence for evolution, but you airily dismiss it by calling the poster a "doctrinaire PhD crank longing for tenure and relevance." I guess handwaving is a whole lot easier than actually examining the evidence -- and it has the added benefit that you do not need to change your particular worldview.


209 posted on 02/08/2005 7:31:20 AM PST by Junior (FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC)
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To: Mamzelle; Ichneumon
There is no religious fanatic so obnoxious as the doctrinaire PhD crank longing for tenure and relevance.

Actually, every PhD (both men and women) I work with could care less about fame or "relevance" as you purport relevance. The relevance they are after is being able to add to the knowledge of the body of science. I am currently working on a joint paper with a colleague who completed his PhD in Astrodynamics. He is one of the nicest guys you will ever meet and couldn't care less about fame and/or fortune. All he wants is to make his tiny contribution in designing more efficient ways of flying spacecraft to planets in our solar system.

My Grandfather received his PhD in chemistry. But you will never find him on the web. Not even his name. Do you know what he did? He developed better and safer paints for homes. My dad received his PhD from the University of Wisconsin. He worked with the AEC back in the 50s and 60s. He too cannot be found on the web. However, he revolutionized uranium exploration. My uncle is rather famous (all over the web) but his PhD (same university as my dad) was in Geophysics. He became one of the leading researchers studying Antarctica. He wintered over there three times. He also has a mountain named after him down there. He too does not care for fame or fortune even though he is considered a leading expert in the world.

I work with PhDs every day and NOT ONE of them are after what you suggest.

341 posted on 02/08/2005 9:42:11 AM PST by RadioAstronomer
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