Scientists find missing link between whale and its closest relative, the hippo

UC Berkeley News ^ | 24 January 2005 | Robert Sanders, Media Relations

[UltraKonservativen]

I assure you, you are wrong. Evolution is a fact.

I keep reading articles on the validity of evolution, looking for some conclusive proof that I could understand and would make "solid" sense and I always feel cheated.
This article is again disapointing, full of speculation and (IMHO) tenuous links.
Before I get called an ignorant idiot, let me say Calculus, Fourier Series and Laplace Transfers along with Chemistry and Physics were not considered easy subjects but I understood them. Evolution is very suspicious to me and far from a fact.

[shubi]

Wolverine?

[WildTurkey]

Before I get called an ignorant idiot, let me say Calculus, Fourier Series and Laplace Transfers along with Chemistry and Physics were not considered easy subjects but I understood them. Evolution is very suspicious to me and far from a fact.

Did you ever take a course in evolutionary theory?

[shubi]

Here is a good link to understand that evolution is a fact and the theory of evolution explains that fact:

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/evolution-fact.html

When you are talking about the theory, it is always being updated based on new data. However, the observed fact of evolution is accepted as far as anything in science is a fact. Science does not deal in "proof". Anyone that asks for proof is not a scientist.

[Alacarte]

The order of creation was told in the Bible thousands of years before science confirmed it.

You need to either read your bible or take some science classes. The bible says the earth was created before the stars, this could not be further from how it really happened.

Even if your assertion was not completely false, it was still an after the fact prediction. Science received no help from religion in determining the order of events during the creation of the universe (thankfully, since the bible is wrong).

http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CH/CH801.html

For 1500 years, every theologian was sure the bible told us the universe is 5-6000 years old. Now that science has showed us the truth of the matter, suddenly we see theologians trying to show how the bible actually says the earth billions of years old. They had 1500 years to tell us how old the earth really is, but only an after the fact prediction finally shows us... right.

[SubSailor]

Ichneumon seems to be pretty upset.

[shubi]

Yeah, just because evolution proves there is no God is no reason to be upset. LOL

[shubi]

The Bible doesn't say how old the Earth is. That was a miscalculation by Bishop Ussher.

[Tribune7]

While the common ancestor of cetaceans and anthracotheres probably wasn't fully aquatic, it likely lived around water, he said. And while many anthracotheres appear to have been adapted to life in water, all of the youngest fossils of anthracotheres, hippos and cetaceans are aquatic or semi-aquatic.

Gotta love assumptions.

[WildTurkey]

Not really. There is a difference between being fed up and being upset.

[Tribune7]

I assure you, you are wrong. Evolution is a fact.

If I close my eyes real tight and repeat this 10,000 times, will I believe it (referring of course to evolution as all life coming undirected from a common cell)?

[SubSailor]

My perception could be wrong but I read post #480 as being upset.

[Tribune7]

Wake up to the fact that your list of web sites supporting missing links are MISSING LINKS.

LOL.

[WildHorseCrash]

I mean, really, why does it matter so much to either side whether or not evolution is fact or unproven theory? Why get so upset about it?

For me, it's three fold.

First, there is the desire by the creationist side to get their religious beliefs taught in public schools. Evolution is science, and deserves to be taught in science class; creationism (of all types) is religion, and should be taught in Sunday School.

Second, I am sick to death of being call evil, immoral, a Satanist, stupid, a Communist, a Nazi, a Leftist, a Democrat, a sex pervert, a papist, or having something against Christianity because I understand that Evolution is a fact.

Finally, I find willful ignorance offensive. I am not saying that people who believe in creationism are all willfully ignorant, I am talking about the subset who, no matter how many times you point out the evidence, insist that there is no evidence. It's friggin' Orwellian. If you choose not to believe in evolution, that's fine. I can respect someone saying, "I value my faith over science" or "I choose to disbelieve the science on religious grounds" or "I am rejecting the evidence because I believe I have a command by God to do so." But don't sit here and blow smoke up everyone's asses by saying that there is no evidence.

[shubi]

How about some facts refuting evolution instead of petulant scoffing?

[A CA Guy]

Shows you how badly I misread the title, I thought this was a Star Jones story. ;-0

[Tribune7]

From one Philadelphian to another, good job.

[shubi]

No, but if I clap my hands three times you will disappear.
So watch it!

[pharmamom]

You are a veritable treasure trove of information. Made my thumb hurt, scrolling down. Ping for later reading, with a glass of wine!

[WildTurkey]

Wait till the creationist start calling the "evolutionists" baby-killing Nazis.