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New Signs of Awareness Seen in Some Brain-Injured Patients
The New York Times ^ | 2/8/05 | Benedict Carey

Posted on 02/08/2005 2:23:11 AM PST by LibWhacker

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To: RadioAstronomer
Terri does not want to die.
21 posted on 02/08/2005 2:59:55 PM PST by syriacus (Ted Kennedy MIS-learned how to unseat dictators by watching JFK's Bay of Pigs fiasco.)
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To: RadioAstronomer
"If I was that brain-damaged, I would rather be dead. This I can say with absolute certainty."

I'd rather be dead than go on long like that, for sure. It sounds like the worst hell imaginable to me - like being buried alive. Much worse than not knowing what was happening at all. But I hope they use this to diagnose and determine the prognosis for people so the state would only be temporary.

I mean, they should do the MRIs on everyone, and if they see the activity, they can try therapies to "train" people to communicate somehow. Then, chart the progress to see if it's being effective.

I think I could handle it as long as I could communicate somehow.
22 posted on 02/08/2005 3:02:00 PM PST by Trinity_Tx (Most of our so-called reasoning consists in finding arguments for going on believin as we already do)
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To: LibWhacker

Amazing, and a great step forward.


23 posted on 02/08/2005 3:03:23 PM PST by hershey
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To: LibWhacker

Finally, science has caught up with what loving families have instinctively known forever- that their brain-damaged family members react to them. Now it's scientifically proven.

What are they going to prove next, that unborn babies are human beings, too?

DUH.


24 posted on 02/08/2005 3:33:30 PM PST by FreepinforTerri (Send Attorney George J. Felos Rebukes via Email. His email is proofg@aol.com)
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To: RadioAstronomer
I think I would, too -- and I only use my brain 1/1000th as much as you! :-)

I agree with the person who said that it would sort of be like you were buried alive.

That said, I'm glad this may help Terri Schiavo and those who love her. I could never bring myself to pull the plug on someone like her, or condone someone else doing it.

25 posted on 02/08/2005 4:16:59 PM PST by LibWhacker
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They covered this on NBC tonight and said that there was more activity in their minds than anyone obviously knew. They also mentioned Terri.


26 posted on 02/08/2005 5:05:05 PM PST by Sun (Slavery was justifed by claiming the victims were not people; abortion is justified that way today.)
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To: Ohioan from Florida; Scoop 1

Ok. Sorry I took her statement wrong.


27 posted on 02/08/2005 5:14:08 PM PST by RadioAstronomer
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To: syriacus
Terri does not want to die.

I made no reference to her at all in my previous post. However, let me go on the record that starving her to death is heinous, barbaric, and evil in my opinion.

28 posted on 02/08/2005 5:16:45 PM PST by RadioAstronomer
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To: LibWhacker
I could never bring myself to pull the plug on someone like her

Neither could I.

29 posted on 02/08/2005 5:18:20 PM PST by RadioAstronomer
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To: Trinity_Tx

I hope it helps. Thanks. :-)


30 posted on 02/08/2005 5:19:07 PM PST by RadioAstronomer
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To: LibWhacker

Amazing article...

Thanks for posting it!



~~BUMP~~


31 posted on 02/08/2005 6:03:15 PM PST by Schiminie (always praying for Terri)
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Prayers for Terri!


32 posted on 02/08/2005 9:05:33 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: Trinity_Tx

Dittos.

I've long harbored a suspicion that what we consider the state of being brain dead is much more rare than we think--after all, just about every person who comes out of a coma says that he or she was quite aware of the outside world. It's merely that the brain cannot sync with the body.

We should treat all people in such states with just as much love and attention as if they were perfectly healthy and able to communicate, if not more so. Hopefully, with more advances, we can shift our focus to determining awareness and developing methods of giving people in Terri's situation more means of communication.


33 posted on 02/08/2005 9:13:52 PM PST by Nataku X (Food for Thought: http://web2.airmail.net/scsr/)
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34 posted on 02/08/2005 9:26:35 PM PST by Coleus (Oppose Amnesty for Illegal Aliens http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/1335643/posts)
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35 posted on 02/08/2005 9:27:54 PM PST by Coleus (Brooke Shields aborted how many children? http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1178497/posts)
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To: LibWhacker
"This study gave me goose bumps, because it shows this possibility of this profound isolation, that these people are there, that they've been there all along, even though we've been treating them as if they're not," said Dr. Joseph Fins, chief of the medical ethics division of New York Presbyterian Hospital-Weill Cornell Medical Center.

God, what a moron!!! "We've been treating them as if they're not [there]." How does a moron such as this end up as chief of ethics?

36 posted on 02/08/2005 9:36:56 PM PST by my_pointy_head_is_sharp
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To: Nataku X

I was in a coma for 5 weeks...didnt remember much.....but glad they kept the tubes in.....that was 35 years ago


37 posted on 02/08/2005 9:38:28 PM PST by muddypaws
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To: LibWhacker

Bookmark


38 posted on 02/08/2005 9:41:18 PM PST by Pajamajan ( Congratulations to the Iraqi people on their first step toward democracy!. God Bless our military!)
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To: amdgmary

Thanks for the ping, OfF. This development is similar to the new realistic images of unborn children available to their future parents. The more we can see people as human, with feelings and thoughts, the more we can help them and possibly heal them. God bless Drs. Fin and Hirsch.


39 posted on 02/09/2005 5:10:20 AM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Click on my name to see what readers have said about my Christian novels!)
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To: RadioAstronomer
I made no reference to her at all in my previous post.

I didn't say you referred to Terri, when you replied* to the article, which, on the other hand, specifically referred to Terri:

Dr. Bernat said
findings from studies like these would be relevant to cases like that of Terri Schiavo,
*When you wrote
If I was that brain-damaged, I would rather be dead. This I can say with absolute certainty.
40 posted on 02/09/2005 5:30:02 AM PST by syriacus (Ted Kennedy MIS-learned how to unseat dictators by watching JFK's Bay of Pigs fiasco.)
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