Posted on 02/07/2005 11:33:38 PM PST by JohnHuang2
"And Merlin built Stonehenge."
Humanity knew of the existence of the closer planets (Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn) at least since the end of the stone age. Planets move differently in the sky than do stars and are easily spotted over several days of observation.
The Book of Enoch is not considered to be authentic or inspired.
The ancient Egyptians had the same ability to think, dream and organize as anyone today, they just had fewer gadgets. To argue that they could not have done what they did without divine or extraterrestrial assistance is just insulting.
For those of you who subscribe to Coast to Coast with Art Bell, Art interviewed Patrick Heron Jan. 30 about this book. It was absolutely fascinating. Those who have Hebrew-Greek Bibles, the word Nephilim is referenced #5303, 5307, 5308 in the lexical aids to the Old Testament.
N phill: masc. noun ...means bully, a tyrant, a giant.
Naphal: to fall, throw down, to cast oneself down; the main idea behind this root is a violent or accidental circumstance or event.
Along with other forms of falling, N phill could mean that the falling is "by the hand of an opponent."
The Nephilim is also mentioned in Beowolf. Don't have the book handy, but will show the reference in a while.
http://www.preparetoleave.com/home.html
Most scholars say the Hebrew word for 'day' in Genesis can be interpreted as 'a period of time' and does not mean a strict 24 hour day. With that understanding, the Genesis account is not so hard to accept.
"not considered to be authentic or inspired" Try this book..."The Lost Prophet", The Book of Enoch and It's Influence on Christianity...by Margaret Barker. Abingdon Press, 1944. (First Published in Great Brittain 1988, SPCK, Holy Trinity Church, Marylebone Road, London NW1 4DU). Do not be a sheep, a follower of preconcieved knowledge, SEEK out what is TRUE...make up your own mind only after you have investigated fully. Even the best Republicans are too "Left" to be Holy in God's assessment.
But please don't fight about this and if you the Bishop Usher view or some other view, it's all irrelevant to me, as I said, I begin all with John 1.1.
If I understand the author's premise correctly, the fallen angels who were lost in the flood were bound and contained in "Hades", but the spirits of the offspring are the demons that plague mankind today, also known as "familiar spirits". He agrees with you (and so do I) that these are the same spirits that may show up in haunted houses or any supernatural experience (ufo's i.e.).
He also states that the Nephilim appeared after the flood, i.e. the "giants" in Canaan (Num. 13:33) which is also referenced #5303, fallen ones.
"And there we saw the giants (Nephilim), the sons of Anak, which come of the giants: and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight."
In my website, www.preparetoleave.com (in maintenance mode right now, so please be patient) there is a section devoted to looking for new revelations in the word. Those things that were "sealed" for the time of the end I believe are being revealed. Like you said, you have to seek them out with a lot of prayer.
uh... what did you just say?
Interesting.........
Unfortunately when you have been taught the world is flat you will live and believe accordingly. Doesn't the mormon bible have the book of Enoch? I will have to look, I think I have one of those somewhere. I believe where as we use maybe 1/8 of our brains, that Adam and Eve used all of theirs and were highly intelligent and mathmatically inclined, altho our knowledge has increased since Noah and all was destroyed, commom sense is a thing of the past and we get dumber by the decade. Adam and Eve were told immediately upon creation to go and replenish the earth, so my belief is that there was quite a population of the Sons of God before Cain and Abel, with Cain and Abel leaven was added to the human race thru the daughters of men (the off spring of Cain and Abel) and all mankind received a genetic portion eventually. Just my thoughts.
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I bet Zawi Hawass's blood pressure just shot up 50 points. He gets pretty hot under the collar when theories like this get touted as where the pyramids came from.
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Gen 2:4 and the Sun not created until the fourth day make translating yom as day unlikely.
"Those things that were "sealed" for the time of the end I believe are being revealed. Like you said, you have to seek them out with a lot of prayer. "
The Gnostics were a heretical sect that believed they had secret knowledge, too.
Or maybe he's just been reading too much Norse mythology and has confused places with people....
Truth is truth, if someone wants to take the truth that the Bible says and then squeeze it and stretch it and pervert it, that is a big mistake. Genesis 6 only speaks of the sons of god who had children by the daughters of men, the offspring being giants. It does not say anyone was like them before this time. Those who stick to what the Bible says, rightly dividing the Word, will be much better off and will not let their vain imagination correct the bible.
I have always believed that the nephilim were sired by fallen angels, and this was the chief reason for Noah's Flood. I read a book called The Omega Conspiracy, Satan's last assault on God's Kingdom. I doubt these two books differ on much.
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