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Conversational Terrorism: How NOT to Talk!
The Art of Conversation ^ | FR Post 2-7-5 | Dean and Marshall VanDruff

Posted on 02/07/2005 2:42:02 PM PST by vannrox

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Fun read.
1 posted on 02/07/2005 2:42:03 PM PST by vannrox
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To: vannrox; Darksheare; Mo1; glock rocks; humblegunner; Squantos; rintense; King Prout

Calling a few friends over cuz I KNOW you'll all be able to use this, somehow, somewhere!

:)


2 posted on 02/07/2005 2:44:47 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma (aich tee tee pea colon 2 slashes dubya dubya dubya dot proud patriots dot org)
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To: Brad's Gramma

LOL!
I think I saw someone use this on a certain thread today where he was saying how we're all unsophisticated because we were interested in what was happening...

Thanks!
Bookmarking!


3 posted on 02/07/2005 2:50:35 PM PST by Darksheare ("Cast off your amazing human ruse and show them our mighty robot form!" - but I'm a ghost!)
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To: vannrox
BTW, if you check out visitor's submissions, you'll see that there are two from yours truly. </brag>

And, as embarassing as it is to admit, I came up with the "YOU KNOW BETTER" technique because I caught myself doing it...

4 posted on 02/07/2005 2:52:31 PM PST by kevkrom (If people are free to do as they wish, they are almost certain not to do as Utopian planners wish)
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To: kevkrom
For reference:

YOU KNOW BETTER:

A variant of I KNOW BETTER is to convey that not only do you know that the other person is wrong, but so do they. Used to imply that the target is either too emotional, too biased, or too lazy to see the obvious "truth". This can be a great lead in for the I KNOW BETTER technique, as the resultant dumbfounded stare of the victim can be taken as tacit permission to tell them what you know they know.

"You should know better than that! If we did it your way ...."

"If you'd just stop and think about it for a second, you'll realize what a stupid point you just made."

"It's odd you'd say that, since, surely Jim, you know better ..."


YOU JUST HEARD THAT:

By pointing out a possible source, real or imagined, you can make it seem as if the other person can't think for themselves. This technique works even better if the supposed "source" of the other person's opinion is controversial, much like the NAME IT tactic. The utility of this is to avoid the point entirely and subtly imply that such a derivative idea (whether this is true or not is of no consequence) is WRONG BY ASSOCIATION, an alternate name for this technique.

"Really now, Cindy, all you're doing is spouting liberal dogma. I'm trying to make a real point here ...."

"I'll bet you heard that on Rush Limbaugh!"

"You got that off of the INTERNET, didn't you?"


5 posted on 02/07/2005 2:54:34 PM PST by kevkrom (If people are free to do as they wish, they are almost certain not to do as Utopian planners wish)
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To: jan in Colorado; Dark Skies; fastattacksailor; Former Dodger; USF; ariamne

thanks to vannrox who posted this. most of it will remind us all of a number of guess who?


6 posted on 02/07/2005 3:02:29 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Understand Evil: Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD. Link on my Page. free pdf.)
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To: Brad's Gramma

This is some great stuff, and these "false answers" are a staple of the Delphi techique, a method of controlling opinions and outcomes in public forums.

http://www.iit.edu/~it/delphi.html
http://www.learn-usa.com/transformation_process/acf001.htm

Learn and use: this is the way that "town meetings" and "open forums" are controlled. You CAN disrupt Delphi meetings, and you SHOULD.

http://www.learn-usa.com/transformation_process/acf002.htm

Have FUN at your next local "town hall" meeting!


7 posted on 02/07/2005 3:04:02 PM PST by dandelion (http://thequestionfairy.blogspot.com/)
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To: Brad's Gramma

Well now what would make you think of such a thang bout lil ol me Gramma ?

Personally I prefer the timely but proven Ernest T. Bass Rock Chuckin Society's primary principal of pissin on the petunia's while pitchin polished petoskey stones at panderin polidiot's, presstitutes and their pandering punks !....period !

But I'm always willin to learn something new.....Thanks !

Stay safe !!


8 posted on 02/07/2005 3:17:08 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: Brad's Gramma

Yer new here, aintcha?


9 posted on 02/07/2005 3:17:49 PM PST by glock rocks (We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty.)
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To: Squantos

Cuz I was just funnin' with you!!!!


10 posted on 02/07/2005 3:18:34 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma (aich tee tee pea colon 2 slashes dubya dubya dubya dot proud patriots dot org)
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To: glock rocks

Yes.

So? So what is your point?


11 posted on 02/07/2005 3:18:55 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma (aich tee tee pea colon 2 slashes dubya dubya dubya dot proud patriots dot org)
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To: Brad's Gramma

Din't we have this argument just before you went through de-tox?


12 posted on 02/07/2005 3:20:19 PM PST by glock rocks (We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty.)
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To: glock rocks
I don't remember much about that night.
13 posted on 02/07/2005 3:21:11 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma (aich tee tee pea colon 2 slashes dubya dubya dubya dot proud patriots dot org)
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To: Brad's Gramma

My favorite.....Thank You for bumping this thread to the top !


14 posted on 02/07/2005 3:21:20 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: Squantos

Are you messing with me too?


15 posted on 02/07/2005 3:22:04 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma (aich tee tee pea colon 2 slashes dubya dubya dubya dot proud patriots dot org)
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To: Brad's Gramma
Bear with me, I'm practicin technique

Your problem is that you are thinking in a concentric versus longitudinal framework.

I think I'm gettin the hang of this...

16 posted on 02/07/2005 3:23:50 PM PST by glock rocks (We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty.)
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To: vannrox

It IS a fun--and accurate--read. May I add another category? I call it "over-the-topism", such as, say, entitling a piece on logical fallacy, "Conversational Terrorism."


17 posted on 02/07/2005 3:23:56 PM PST by jammer
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To: glock rocks

BRB


18 posted on 02/07/2005 3:25:02 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma (aich tee tee pea colon 2 slashes dubya dubya dubya dot proud patriots dot org)
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To: jammer; Brad's Gramma; Squantos
And don't forget the ever popular blame shift..

LOOK WHAT YOU MADE ME DO!!

19 posted on 02/07/2005 3:25:27 PM PST by glock rocks (We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty.)
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To: glock rocks

*Ahem*



I'd like to respond to that, but taking into account your background, education, and intelligence, I am quite sure that you would not be able to understand.


20 posted on 02/07/2005 3:25:48 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma (aich tee tee pea colon 2 slashes dubya dubya dubya dot proud patriots dot org)
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