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Giardia Bares All: Parasite genes reveal long sexual history
Science News Online ^ | Jan. 29, 2005 | Christen Brownlee

Posted on 02/07/2005 1:15:22 PM PST by js1138

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To: ApplegateRanch
"A couple billion years seems like an awfully long preadolescence."

Aye. Looking at the Giardia genome is like looking at MicroSoft Windows code...lots of unused subroutines hidden in both.

21 posted on 02/07/2005 2:21:52 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: NRA2BFree

" Is this all they have to do? LOL Like who really cares about the sexual activities of Giardia? :)"

They probably have lots of taxpayer dollars to burn.


22 posted on 02/07/2005 2:24:51 PM PST by dljordan
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To: F.J. Mitchell
You have to wonder how Geraldo even finds time for sexual activities, the way he is always enroute from here to yonder and back.

Yes, it does make one wonder, but I kinda think Geraldo would fall into the category of "sexual escapades." LOL

23 posted on 02/07/2005 2:46:32 PM PST by NRA2BFree (NO AMNESTY, NO UN, NO PC, NO BS, NO MSM, NO WHINY @SS LIBERAL BEDWETTERS, NO LIBERAL JUDGES! YEAH!)
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To: Southack
Oh my. Recessive genes in eukaryotes and prokaryotes...who woulda thunk it?!

Proof that you don't lose it just because you don't use it.

24 posted on 02/07/2005 3:15:49 PM PST by js1138
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To: NRA2BFree

"LOL Like who really cares about the sexual activities of Giardia? :)"

If you ever get it, YOU will.


25 posted on 02/07/2005 3:29:07 PM PST by furball4paws ("These are Microbes."... "You have crobes?" BC)
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To: js1138

"Proof that you don't lose it just because you don't use it.'

Just sittin' around pickin' and grinnin' and waiting til the time is ripe.


26 posted on 02/07/2005 3:31:10 PM PST by furball4paws ("These are Microbes."... "You have crobes?" BC)
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To: js1138

Did all the intermediate forms go extinct, and why?" Roger asks.

Cause they didn't have gay marriage and couldn't reproduce,
Oh, wait....


27 posted on 02/07/2005 3:32:30 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Southack

"A lot had to happen when eukaryotes evolved. Why aren't there any intermediate stages of this process alive today? Did all the intermediate forms go extinct, and why?" Roger asks."

Very simple, they are in extinction's dustbin.


28 posted on 02/07/2005 3:33:01 PM PST by furball4paws ("These are Microbes."... "You have crobes?" BC)
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To: ApplegateRanch

The way many protozoans handle their genes and chromosomes is quite complicated. As a bugologist, this means that a lot of duplication and unnecessary intervening DNA can easily creep in.

Perhaps they aren't interested in sex because they are too happy where they are (retreat into an ecological niche - doesn't explain the retention of the sexual DNA code, though, unless it has been very recent). Then again many protozoa have "mating types" (think of them as bug sexes). They don't like their brothers (or sisters, depending). Just lookin' for the right stud.

Related flagellates have no problems finding partners.

Please excuse this microbe ramble.


29 posted on 02/07/2005 3:40:01 PM PST by furball4paws ("These are Microbes."... "You have crobes?" BC)
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To: PatrickHenry
I don't believe in pinging anyone I wouldn't want to talk to myself.
30 posted on 02/07/2005 3:45:31 PM PST by VadeRetro
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To: furball4paws
"Did all the intermediate forms go extinct, and why?" Roger asks."
"Very simple, they are in extinction's dustbin."

Oversimplification often fails to answer the questions asked...

31 posted on 02/07/2005 3:46:41 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: js1138
"Proof that you don't lose it just because you don't use it."

Indeed!

Yet technically, an organism would be genetically superior if it had all of its functionality without also having unused genetic code as baggage. Natural Selection *should* favor those without the unused code...

32 posted on 02/07/2005 3:50:13 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack
Natural Selection *should* favor those without the unused code...

On what basis?

33 posted on 02/07/2005 3:52:30 PM PST by js1138
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To: js1138

Completely unused code requires more energy for genetic copying, yet delivers, by definition, no benefit to the organism.

34 posted on 02/07/2005 4:15:13 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: js1138; Happygal
I looked at the title and thought, 'just why does the Irish police have an interest in history'?
35 posted on 02/07/2005 4:22:20 PM PST by investigateworld (Babies= A sure sign He hasn't given up on mankind!)
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To: Southack
Oh my. Recessive genes in eukaryotes and prokaryotes...who woulda thunk it?!

Sort of like these recessive genes...

Vancomycin Immunity
This antibiotic binds to the cell wall of a microbe and prevents it from forming successfully. Like the opposite of penicillin (which breaks the completed wall down), this one acts as a sabotaged building block and doesn't let it form in the first place.

Bacterial populations usually respond to penicillin by developing beta-lactamases, enzymes that destroy the chemical before it takes effect. Vancomycin, however, becomes highly toxic to germ organelles when broken down--an apparent catch-22! If the germ doesn't break it down, it incorporates poison into its cell wall and dies; if it does break it down, it creates poisonous by-products and dies anyway.

So, we have a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" drug on our hands, something that should be able to take out any nasties we aim it at. So, we aimed and we fired, and time passed, this new selective pressure had been introduced into the microbial world in Doctors' surgeries and hospitals across the western world.

This tale, however, would have a sting in it's tail, it showed us that we were in a chemical arms race with foes much much smaller and much much dumber than us.

A mere 30 years after vancomycin had started being used, a bizarre, multi-part anti-vancomycin system sprung forth in enterococci and other bacteria.

No less than 5 genes are involved in this contrived monstrosity of a defense. VanR and VanS produce enzymes that detect the presence of the antibiotic in the bacterium. Once activated, those enzymes activate VanA, which activates, in turn, several genes with subfunctions that (A) prevent vancomycin from being incorporated in the cell wall, (B) break it down, and (C) catalyze its toxic byproducts into harmless remnants.

This by no means stopped with vancomycin, several antibiotics have now become innefective in the hospitals against many infectious bacteria.

A particularly nasty one is MRSA, or methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus, which luckily for us at the moment, is still vulnerable to the above vancomycin. MRSA strains first appeared in the late 1970s and currently 40-50 percent of SA isolated from U.S. hospitals are resistant to methicillin. These infections are treated with the powerful antibiotic vancomycin. Scientists hypothesize that the strains of SA most likely to evolve resistance to vancomycin are the MRSA.

Scientists expect strains of the bacterium Staphylococcus aureus (SA) that are fully resistant to the antibiotic vancomycin to evolve soon. Vancomycin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus (VRSA) is the term used to describe these strains. The expected emergence of VRSA is alarming because vancomycin is the only antibiotic that is effective against MRSA, strains of SA that are resistant to the antibiotic methicillin (MRSA).

Although VRSA—strains of SA that are fully resistant to vancomycin—do not currently exist, medical workers have recently isolated strains of SA that are four times more resistant to vancomycin than SA strains found previously. Because infections due to these strains do not respond to the usual doses of vancomycin, many physicians and other experts incorrectly refer to them as VRSA. They should be described as SA strains with intermediate resistance to vancomycin. Infections due to these strains can be cured using higher doses of vancomycin.

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36 posted on 02/07/2005 4:32:25 PM PST by js1138
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To: js1138
"No less than 5 genes are involved in this contrived monstrosity of a defense."

Lets rephrase that to be relevant for our discussions: "No less than 5 [EXISTING] genes are involved in this contrived monstrosity of a defense."

... And then lets mention: it appears as though genes not only interact with each other, but also that they have multiple functions rather than the old perception (true or not) that each gene did only one thing.

Interestingly enough, this is also *precisely* what we find when we analyze the subroutines in large computer programs and operating systems...

37 posted on 02/07/2005 4:41:03 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack

Do you know the dofference between a gene and an allele?


38 posted on 02/07/2005 4:43:01 PM PST by js1138
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To: js1138

Do you?

39 posted on 02/07/2005 5:07:51 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack; js1138
Do you?

Yes he does.

40 posted on 02/07/2005 5:11:56 PM PST by Ichneumon
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