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Navy considers retiring JFK and moving another carrier from Norfolk
Virginia Pilot ^

Posted on 02/07/2005 8:54:43 AM PST by Sub-Driver

Navy considers retiring JFK and moving another carrier from Norfolk By DALE EISMAN, The Virginian-Pilot © February 7, 2005 Last updated: 11:34 AM

WASHINGTON -- The Navy wants to retire the aircraft carrier John F. Kennedy this year, months earlier than had been expected, and is seriously contemplating the transfer of another flattop from Norfolk to the Kennedy's home in Mayport, Fla., according to budget documents released this morning.

The Bush administration's 2006 budget proposal would eliminate the Kennedy and provide $10 million for an environmental impact study on the basing of a nuclear-powered carrier in Mayport, a Jacksonville suburb, Navy officials said. The Kennedy is one of only two conventionally-powered carriers in the U.S. fleet; the second, the Kitty Hawk, is based in Japan.

The Kennedy's retirement at age 37 would leave the U.S. with 11 carriers, the fewest in decades. All five flattops assigned to the Atlantic Fleet would be based in Norfolk unless the service decides to shift one to Mayport to replace the Kennedy.

A Navy official briefing reporters on Friday suggested that service leaders are concerned that reliance on a single port on either coast would leave the carrier fleet vulnerable to surprise attack or natural disaster. The six Pacific Fleet carriers are spread among ports in California, Washington state and Japan.

"We certainly want to have, strategically, our carrier fleet in more than one port," said the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity.

Though the Kennedy had been expected to remain in service until 2018, budgetary pressures spurred a decision last fall by Navy officials to shrink the carrier fleet. The Navy has never publicly identified the Kennedy as the ship to be retired but officials have been saying privately for weeks that "Big John" is their target.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: norfolk; usn; ussjohnfkennedy
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1 posted on 02/07/2005 8:54:43 AM PST by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

Ted the Kampfschwimmer will go apoplectic!......


2 posted on 02/07/2005 8:56:52 AM PST by Red Badger (ANONYMOUS IRAQI VOTER: "I dipped it deep as if I was poking the eyes of all the world's tyrants.)
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To: Sub-Driver
provide $10 million for an environmental impact study on the basing of a nuclear-powered carrier in Mayport, a Jacksonville suburb

My tax dollars at work, yippee. If the DoD had asked me, I'd have told them I'd rather have an aircraft carrier than an environmental impact study.

3 posted on 02/07/2005 8:57:49 AM PST by Tax-chick (Wielder of the Dread Words of Power, "Bless your heart, honey!")
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To: Sub-Driver
"...$10 million for an environmental impact study ..."

Has anyone ever made use of these fictional 'impact' studies? (I mean other than to deny the use of land to a landowner once they use their own funds to find an endangered slug on their property)

4 posted on 02/07/2005 9:13:04 AM PST by Mr. K
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To: Sub-Driver

The JFK is due for a major overhaul. Might as well retire her now than spend all the $$s on the overhaul. We can sustain our dominance of the sea easily with 11 carriers. It'd rather see the money go into development of the next generation Navy. We are very close to a whole new type of Navy, no use throwing money into the old Navy.


5 posted on 02/07/2005 9:16:05 AM PST by ProudVet77 (Survivor of the great blizzard of aught five)
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To: Tax-chick

Heck, I can give 'em the impact of moving a carrier to Mayport for free.

- You'll have to build a really big dock.
- You'll have to build more houses.
- You'll probably run over a few field mice while doing it.

There. And I'll only charge 'em $5 million for it.

}:-)4

(I thought the Dread Words of Power were "Bless your bowels, honey"?)


6 posted on 02/07/2005 9:17:34 AM PST by Moose4 (http://www.livejournal.com/~moose4. Because the Internet was made for self-important wanking.)
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To: Sub-Driver

I read somewhere that the Kennedy was the original choice for recovery carrier for Apollo 11. President Nixon nixed that out of spite to the memory of JFK. That's how the Hornet got the job. Anyone else hear that? I'd sure like to go aboard the Kennedy if it's turned into a floating museum.


7 posted on 02/07/2005 9:18:28 AM PST by NCC-1701 (ISLAM IS A CULT, PURE AND SIMPLE!!!!! IT MUST BE ERADICATED FROM THE FACE OF THE EARTH.)
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To: Moose4

"Bless your bowels" is the super-secret Dread Words, not to be used for just *any* Niceness emergency.

Enjoy your $5 million!


8 posted on 02/07/2005 9:22:16 AM PST by Tax-chick (Wielder of the Dread Words of Power, "Bless your heart, honey!")
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To: NCC-1701

The JFK was planned as a nuclear powered carrier but LBJ ordered her to be an oil burner.


9 posted on 02/07/2005 9:23:43 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Sub-Driver

Retiring FDR's legacy and now the JFK...sweet!


10 posted on 02/07/2005 9:24:21 AM PST by rabidralph (Congratulations, Pres. Bush and VP Cheney!)
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To: Sub-Driver

bump


11 posted on 02/07/2005 9:25:56 AM PST by satchmodog9 (Murder and weather are our only news)
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To: Moose4
They don't even have to do any of that - Mayport already has two carrier berths. When I was stationed there around Gulf War I time, the Saratoga (my ship) and the Forrestal called Mayport home. The Saratoga was retired - the last I heard about the Forrestal, the Navy was talking about sending it to Pensacola to be the training carrier, and retiring the Lexington.
12 posted on 02/07/2005 9:26:38 AM PST by CFC__VRWC
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To: NCC-1701

I'd prefer to see her sold (for $1) to Australia or the UK. She has a good 10 years of life left in her. They already have FA/18s, so they have the support structure for them.


13 posted on 02/07/2005 9:36:22 AM PST by ProudVet77 (Survivor of the great blizzard of aught five)
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To: NCC-1701
I read somewhere that the Kennedy was the original choice for recovery carrier for Apollo 11. President Nixon nixed that out of spite to the memory of JFK. That's how the Hornet got the job. Anyone else hear that?

I think it's more likely the fact that the Kennedy was an Atlantic Fleet carrier and Apollo 11 landed in the Pacific Ocean that ruled it out as recovery vessel.

14 posted on 02/07/2005 9:40:11 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

The Kennedy gets 6" to the gallon.


15 posted on 02/07/2005 9:44:20 AM PST by Coldwater Creek ('We voted like we prayed")
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To: NCC-1701

I have been on board the Kennedy. Looks just like any other carrier.


16 posted on 02/07/2005 9:45:25 AM PST by Coldwater Creek ('We voted like we prayed")
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To: ProudVet77
They already have FA/18s, so they have the support structure for them.

What they don't have are pilots trained to operate from a carrier, the 5,000 men and women needed to man it, or the need for the carrier in the first place.

17 posted on 02/07/2005 9:46:22 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

Oh, don't go dumping his little tin-foil chapeau theories with something as irrelevant as facts! :-)


18 posted on 02/07/2005 10:09:05 AM PST by Redleg Duke (Pass Tort Reform Now! Make the bottom clean for the catfish!)
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To: Non-Sequitur
Absolutely agree. What I was thinking of though was that the fact they have FA/18s already, they have parts for them, mechanics that know how to fix them and pilots that know how to fly them. They are also planning on buying the JSF which is carrier capable.
Since we are reducing our force by 1 carrier, we have 5K extra carrier sailors and airdales so we might be able to make them a deal for training. Something like we supply 2/3 the airdales while we bring their people up to speed. A lot of the other systems on her are similar to theirs, so we can supply say 1/3 of the staff, to get them over the hump. By keeping those people in our Navy we have crew for the CVN-77 when she gets delivered in '08.
19 posted on 02/07/2005 10:11:52 AM PST by ProudVet77 (Survivor of the great blizzard of aught five)
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To: mariabush

A Great Lakes iron ore carrier gets about 1.5 feet to the gallon of Number 6 oil.


20 posted on 02/07/2005 10:36:18 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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