Posted on 02/07/2005 5:29:07 AM PST by sure_fine
SEC'Y RUMSFELD: As you know, you go to war with the army you have, not the army you might want or wish to have at a later time.
And if you think about it, you can have all the armor in the world on a tank and a tank can be blown up. And you can have an up-armored Humvee and it can be blown up.
(End videotape)
(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.msn.com ...
SEC'Y RUMSFELD: Yeah, but wait a minute. Let me get into this a little bit.
MR. RUSSERT: Sure.
SEC'Y RUMSFELD: That was unfair and it was selectively taking out two sentences from a long exchange--there it is--that took place. And when you suggested that that's how I answered that question, that is factually wrong.
MR. RUSSERT: No, we...
SEC'Y RUMSFELD: That is not how I answered that question.
MR. RUSSERT: But, Mr. Secretary, it clearly represents the exchange and...
SEC'Y RUMSFELD: It does not.
MR. RUSSERT: All right. What is missing?
SEC'Y RUMSFELD: You want to hear the exchange? There is it. It's right here. I'll read it to you.
MR. RUSSERT: I just...
SEC'Y RUMSFELD: If you're going to quote pieces of it, I'll give you the exchange. He asked that question, and I said, "I talked to the general coming out here about the pace at which the vehicles are being armored. They have been brought from all over the world, wherever they're not needed, to places where they are needed. I'm told they are being--the Army is--I think it's something like 400 a month are being done now. And it's essentially a matter of physics. It's not a matter of money. It isn't a matter on the part of the Army's desire. It's a matter of production and capability of doing it. As you know, you go to the war with the Army you have. They're not the Army you might want or wish to have at a later time.
"Since the Iraq conflict began, the Army has been pressing ahead to produce armor necessary at a rate that they believe--it's a greatly expanded rate from what existed previously but a rate that they believe is the rate that can be accomplished. I can assure you that General Schumacher and the leadership of the Army and certainly General Whitcomb are sensitive to the fact that not every vehicle has the degree of armor that would be desirable to have, but that they're working at it at a good clip.
"It's interesting. I've talked a great deal about this with a team of people who've been working hard at the Pentagon. And if you think about it, you can have all the armor in the world on a tank and the tank could still be blown up. And you can have an up-armored Humvee and it can be blown up. And you can go down and the vehicle--the goal we have is to have many of those vehicles as is humanly possible with the appropriate level of armor available for the troops. And that's what the Army's been working on. And, General Whitcomb, is there anything you want to add?" And then he spoke.
Now, that answer is totally different from picking out two lines. And I think it's an unfair representation and it's exactly what some of the newspapers around the country did. Now, let's go back to Susan Collins' comment, Senator Collins...
Good for Rumsfeld...nailed the dishonest, lying MSM for what they are.
I am plastering this exchange everywhere I can find a place to do it....because I know it will not see light if left up to MSM's
Excellent post...thanks!
also in all that transcript, you can see where Sen Kennedy told Tim to basically change the subject for his agenda
I'm glad to finally have the context for the 'with the Army you have' remark. Thanks!
MR. RUSSERT: You also said "The war in Iraq has made the mushroom cloud more likely, not less likely, and it should never have happened." How has the war in Iraq made nuclear war more likely?
(and the Bloody Mary breakfast kicks in)
SEN. KENNEDY: Well, the--my own sense is--I'm not sure what the whole kind of context--I thought you were quoting the administration officials that use that as part of a justification and to go to war...
MR. RUSSERT: No, this is your speech at George Washington University. "The war in Iraq has made the mushroom cloud more likely, not less likely."
....lol
Rummy SPANKED Russert with that quote! Russert looked so sheepish afterwards. It was a joy to watch Rummy put Timmy in his place.
"could I have looked anymore stupid?"
damn straight he did
He nailed ... Maureen ... Russert.
Oh, I wish I could place my hands on that jpg with the zot coming off Rummy's finger tips! Hopefully a more resourceful FReeper will add it to this thread.
Geee...I wonder if he will?!?
It was yesterday on Meet The Press. It was replayed last night at 10 p.m. EST. Not sure if it will be on again.
TeddyK needs a man-bra...MUD
"Thanks for the photo...I'm printing it out, and then sending it to the 'fat pig's' office and asking him to autograph it to me and then send it back."
Tell them if he won't autograph it, could he please just put his whaleprint on it.
"TeddyK needs a man-bra...MUD"
I think this is commonly refered to as a "bro." At least that is what they called it on Seinfeld.
Me too! Let people see what is going on. Blogged it, hope it passes on!
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.