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Hoeven Can't Wait (Sen. Kent Conrad isn't safe. Plus: Dean's Labor dues. Also: Bayh buy.)
The American Prowler ^ | 2/7/2005 | The Prowler

Posted on 02/06/2005 9:28:55 PM PST by nickcarraway

CONRAD SEES RED

It's true that President Bush hit the upper Midwest and the South in his first big push after the State of the Union Address in order to target potential Democratic support in the House and the Senate. But he also was sending Democrats a clear message: 2002 and 2004 were no mistakes. Recall that the President was particularly aggressive in campaigning for Republicans in the midterms in 2002, and barring unforeseen political disasters, will be out there again, pressing for added GOP strength in Congress.

Democrat Sen. Kent Conrad of North Dakota is up for re-election in 2006, and Bush apparently intends to do to him what was done to Sen. Tom Daschle in 2004 if Conrad doesn't fall into line. Conrad was rumored to be mulling retirement, but indications are now that he will run for re-election. The White House has targeted North Dakota's Republican Gov. John Hoeven to run against Conrad. Hoeven attended the State of the Union, then spent time with the President on Air Force One back to his home state. According to White House political sources and a staffer on the National Republican Senatorial Committee (NRSC), Hoeven's political future was discussed.

Now Conrad finds himself in a tough spot. In a state that tends to run heavily red in national campaigns, with a strong rural and Catholic vote, he will be hard pressed to be a highly visible obstructionist with the GOP putting a spotlight on just about every move he makes in Washington. Hoeven is considered a strong campaigner, and popular in the state. The NRSC expects him to make a decision in the next couple of months, and he is expected to oblige the President.

Beyond the White House interest in Hoeven, his recruitment would be a big boost for Sen. Elizabeth Dole, who took over control of the NRSC from Sen. George Allen. "People aren't sure she is up to the job," says a Republican Senate insider. "She wanted it, and got the support, but there are lingering questions. This kind of early, aggressive move helps her quite a bit."

LABOR COSTS

Big Labor's support of apparent new DNC chairman Howie Dean may have seemed as inevitable as Dean's election to the top of the Democratic Party's leadership, but it isn't as strong or as stable as the support may appear to be. This is, in part, because labor leaders within the AFL-CIO aren't sure themselves how much support they are going to have in the coming months.

Last week at an AFL-CIO executive committee meeting, President John Sweeney was asked about the process by which the huge union would be accounting for its political spending in the 2004 election cycle. This is a sore point for Sweeney and his supporters, because when everything is said and done, labor expenses on behalf of Democrats nationally may surpass half a billion dollars, including money funneled to Democratic 527s and shadow organizations.

"They have virtually nothing to show for that money spent," says a Democratic fundraiser. "There are some senior people inside the labor movement who are asking for greater transparency in the area of campaign expenses. Sweeney is feeling some heat."

Dean is expected to bend over backwards for his labor chums once he is installed. Labor was an early backer of Dean's presidential run, pulling out only when it was clear that his chances had guttered out after the Iowa and New Hampshire debacles. Dean's assistance will be essential to Sweeney and his team, if only to ensure that the labor leaders have some breathing room to rebuild support among their state and local affiliates.

BAYH BUY

Apparently Indiana Sen. Evan Bayh really is serious about making a presidential run in 2008. After voting against the nomination of Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, Bayh had his new pollster Paul Maslin -- he of the Dean 2004 campaign -- poll for public reaction to his no vote. No word on the results, but they may must have been favorable given the numerous TV appearances Bayh made after the fact.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Front Page News; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Indiana; US: North Dakota; US: South Dakota; US: Vermont; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: aflcio; bayh; bayh2008; bush; conrad; dean; elizabethdole; gop; hoeven; kkk; labor; northdakota; nrsc; republican; rice; senate
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1 posted on 02/06/2005 9:28:56 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Evan Bayh running for President? You gotta be kidding me.


2 posted on 02/06/2005 9:34:37 PM PST by rdl6989
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To: Thud

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3 posted on 02/06/2005 9:37:47 PM PST by Dark Wing
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To: nickcarraway

John Sweeney represents a new kind of labor leader. The old ones may have been greedy and power drunk, but they worked on behalf of the membership, and they were staunchly anticommunist.

Sweeney has done little or nothing for his members. He is an ideologue. His chief interest has been issues like abortion and homosexual rights, which are not high on the list of things most rank-and-file workers support.

He should have been spending that money expanding membership or working for the welfare of the workers, not on supporting a bunch of political extremists.


4 posted on 02/06/2005 9:40:00 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: nickcarraway
[Big Labor's support of apparent new DNC chairman Howie Dean may have seemed as inevitable as Dean's election to the top of the Democratic Party's leadership, but it isn't as strong or as stable as the support may appear to be.]


The DUnderheads are as excited as can be about Dean and they are supporting him enthusiastically. I found a comment there that made me laugh out loud.

"Time to clean house of the DLC'ers who have turned the party into a right wing sty. Clean out the Bush-lite crowd, Dean, and you just might stand a chance again some day" --DU poster.

I guess they think they've got a winner in Dean and that the majority of Democrats are too right wing. I actually voted for Dean in the Illinois primary so as to try to get him nominated knowing someone so far left wouldn't have a chance to win the presidency.
5 posted on 02/06/2005 9:41:03 PM PST by spinestein
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To: rdl6989

Bayh frightens me. The dems only have to flip a few midwest states amd he would probably take Indiana.


6 posted on 02/06/2005 10:03:08 PM PST by Irish Menace
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To: Irish Menace

The big scoop in here is a possible Hoeven run against Conrad. We couldn't get former Gov. Ed Schafer to run against Dorgan last time, so hopefully we can have better luck here. Frankly it's appalling to have North Dakota represented by two liberal Democratic senators and no viable candidates to take them on. Hoeven could also extend his political career, since (I think, unless this is not the case) he's term limited as governor.


7 posted on 02/06/2005 10:30:55 PM PST by Galactic Overlord-In-Chief (Here's how to solve Christianity vs paganism: have Bibleman vs. Captain Planet in a steel cage match)
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To: rdl6989; Irish Menace; Galactic Overlord-In-Chief; nickcarraway; SoDak; Keith in Iowa; ...
Bayh has as much chance of winning the Dem. nomination as his fellow Indiana Democrat, Tim Roemer, has of becoming the next chairman of the DNC, i.e. none whatsoever.

Bush needs to follow through on his promises to cut off these ridiculously obscene gov't subsidies to agribusiness.

The only reason that Conrad, or Dorgan, or Baucus, or a host of other plains states Dem. senators, even have their current jobs is because of an unwillingness on the part of the GOP to end New Deal-era government programs that never should have been instituted in the first place.

8 posted on 02/06/2005 10:48:02 PM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham ("There is some sugar...It's harder in the case of fires. The tariffs are too high!")
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To: Cicero; Dark Wing; spinestein

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9 posted on 02/06/2005 10:52:51 PM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham ("There is some sugar...It's harder in the case of fires. The tariffs are too high!")
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham

just out of curiousity,,,, How did I get on your ping list?


10 posted on 02/06/2005 10:53:30 PM PST by Iowa Granny
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To: Irish Menace
Bayh frightens me. The dems only have to flip a few midwest states amd he would probably take Indiana.

Yeah, but would the dems be savvy enough to nominate him? I know he's making overtures to position himself in '08, but still. His apparent strengths are his weaknesses with the party faithful, but if he were to get it, I'll be worried, too.

11 posted on 02/07/2005 1:06:05 AM PST by gop_gene
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To: Cicero
The old ones may have been greedy and power drunk, but they worked on behalf of the membership, and they were staunchly anticommunist.

You've obviously never heard of Harry Bridges or the early CIO.

12 posted on 02/07/2005 1:07:53 AM PST by Clemenza (Are you going to bark all day, little doggie, or are you going to bite?)
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To: nickcarraway
Apparently Indiana Sen. Evan Bayh really is serious about making a presidential run in 2008.

Okay, Indiana FREEPers...this clown could be a Johnny Edwards-like candidate...purty mouth, but nasty policies. Let's be sure he knows the good people of the Hoosier state do NOT want him to run for President.

13 posted on 02/07/2005 2:05:36 AM PST by Recovering_Democrat (I'm so glad to no longer be associated with the Party of Dependence on Government!)
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To: rdl6989
Evan Bayh running for President? You gotta be kidding me.

That was exactly my reaction when I heard Kerry was going to run. I'm from MA, and all I could think was "This must be a joke! Who the hell would vote for him?" Ya never know!

14 posted on 02/07/2005 2:08:31 AM PST by maryz
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To: spinestein
"Time to clean house of the DLC'ers who have turned the party into a right wing sty. Clean out the Bush-lite crowd, Dean, and you just might stand a chance again some day" --DU poster.

They're yearning for another McGovern/Nixon matchup? Ok with me!

15 posted on 02/07/2005 2:10:04 AM PST by maryz
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Evan Bayh is another John Edwards: photogenic and unable to carry his home state.


16 posted on 02/07/2005 6:41:54 AM PST by DoctorHydrocal
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To: DoctorHydrocal
I agree. Bayh would make Indiana much closer, but I don't think there is any way he wins it.

Ohio, on the other hand, is of greater concern since it is a neighboring state. Bayh would play much better there than JF'nK did.

17 posted on 02/07/2005 7:38:13 AM PST by comebacknewt
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To: fieldmarshaldj; JohnnyZ; Kuksool; Clintonfatigued; Jim Noble

I hope that Gov. Hoeven doesn't chicken out in 2006 like ex-Gov. Schaffer did in 2004. The Dakota Senate RAT Four are now down to three with Daschle's defeat in 2004, and I don't see why we can't pick off Conrad in 2006, Johnson in 2008 and Dorgan on 2010 and have an all-GOP Dakota delegation in the Senate.


18 posted on 02/07/2005 1:24:11 PM PST by AuH2ORepublican (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice, moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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I hope that Gov. Hoeven doesn't chicken out in 2006 like ex-Gov. Schaffer did in 2004.

Maybe, maybe .... Hoeven would be a great candidate in 2006, but he may be better served finishing his second term as governor and running in 2010. NO FARM AID TO NODAK DEMOCRATS!

19 posted on 02/07/2005 1:28:51 PM PST by JohnnyZ ("Thought I was having trouble with my adding. It's all right now." - Clint Eastwood)
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To: JohnnyZ

"Hoeven would be a great candidate in 2006, but he may be better served finishing his second term as governor and running in 2010."



That sounds great, but not if it means giving Conrad a free ride in 2006. If former Governor Schafer is willing to run against Conrad in 2006, then we can save Hoeven for Dorgan in 2010.

If either Shafer or Hoeven get elected to the Senate, he would become the first GOP Senator with facial hair in quite a few years. The Democrats, of course, already have Jon Corzine and Barbara Mikulski.


20 posted on 02/07/2005 2:19:19 PM PST by AuH2ORepublican (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice, moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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