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UNLV accused of limiting free speech
Las Vegas Review-Journal ^ | 2/5/05 | Richard Lake

Posted on 02/06/2005 8:47:19 AM PST by Honcho Bongs

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To: longtermmemmory
You are living an illusion if you believe that the protections of tenure aren't under attack throughout the U.S. Administrators are leading the charge and uniformed conservatives (by attacking tenure at the University of Colorado) are giving them aid and comfort.

Witness the recent case in which two senior, tenured professors were forced out of the University of Southern Mississippi for criticizing the administration. You are doing Hoppe's cause a great disservice if you assume he is safe simply because he has tenure. This is not necessarily true.

41 posted on 02/06/2005 12:44:25 PM PST by Austin Willard Wright
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To: Austin Willard Wright

points well taken, I am always suspect of any move the ACLU does.


42 posted on 02/06/2005 12:49:26 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: longtermmemmory

We agree on that. I much prefer the Foundation for Individual Rights.


43 posted on 02/06/2005 12:53:13 PM PST by Austin Willard Wright
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To: Austin Willard Wright
yes, but Lindgren defends Hoppe's academic freedom.

As do I. And Churchill's. That doesn't include if he's a fake Indian or if he called for terror attacks on the American meatpacking industry, but it certainly covers whether he thinks of America as a Nazi regime. That's a matter of opinion. I think his opinion sucks, but it's an opinion.

44 posted on 02/06/2005 1:05:54 PM PST by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: Publius Valerius
You have a point....

But I'd wager that the ACLU weighs the pros and cons of every case they take...and doubly so, when it's seemingly a conservative cause.

I can't factually present any evidence here....but I'd gather/guess the "perceived" & "potential" value is duly measured....

FWIW-

45 posted on 02/06/2005 2:18:43 PM PST by Osage Orange (Why does John McCain always look as confused as a goat on Astroturf?)
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To: auboy

Bump


46 posted on 02/06/2005 4:55:52 PM PST by auboy
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To: Austin Willard Wright
Write to Harter now. A conservative is under attack. Where is the outrage here? Let's freep.

Hoppe would describe himself as libertarian, I believe.

47 posted on 02/06/2005 5:11:56 PM PST by secretagent
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To: secretagent

Perhaps but so what??? There have been countless "fire Churchill" threads and posts here but what about defending Hoppe. Instead of attacking academic freedom, conservatives and liberarians should be defending their own who are attacked. Where is the sense of proportion?


48 posted on 02/06/2005 5:59:28 PM PST by Austin Willard Wright
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To: xm177e2

Thank you for your refusing to join the lynch mob. Churchill is a scumbag but if tenure and academic freedom are destroyed, conservatives and libertarians will be the prime victims. The "fire Churchill" crowd are biting off their noses to spite their faces. They are paving the way for mass firings of conservative academics but newly empowered PC administrators (who would love to abolish tenure and academic freedom).


49 posted on 02/06/2005 6:02:02 PM PST by Austin Willard Wright
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To: Austin Willard Wright

I say don't fire, rather debate.

With Churchill, perhaps fire him, but only because he seems to endorse more 9/11's. But don't miss that opportunity to debate him.


50 posted on 02/06/2005 6:23:17 PM PST by secretagent
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To: Verginius Rufus
Quick, Professor Hoppe, discover that you have "Native American" ancestry. It may be your only hope.

Better yet, claim to be a homosexual Indian.

51 posted on 02/06/2005 8:23:16 PM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all things that need to be done need to be done by the government.)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot

bttt


52 posted on 02/07/2005 7:02:51 AM PST by Austin Willard Wright
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To: secretagent

Well said.


53 posted on 02/07/2005 7:03:10 AM PST by Austin Willard Wright
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To: Mind-numbed Robot

bttt


54 posted on 02/07/2005 8:11:06 AM PST by Austin Willard Wright
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To: auboy

bttt


55 posted on 02/07/2005 12:37:59 PM PST by Austin Willard Wright
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To: Austin Willard Wright
You can join the fight against the ACLU and their ilk by becoming involved with and supporting the following organizations:

Alliance Defense Fund (ADF) - http://www.alliancedefensefund.org

Thomas More Law Center (TMLC) - http://www.thomasmore.org

American Center for Law and Justice (ACLJ) - http://www.aclj.org

The Rutherford Institute - http://www.rutherford.org/

Stop the ACLU Coalition - http://www.stoptheaclu.org


Here are a few examples of how two of those organizations are fighting back:

ADF Contacts Over 3,600 School Districts Over Attempts To Censor Christmas

ADF: 700 lawyers ready to fight ACLU lawsuits

ADF: Pentagons' Warning About Boyscouts Is Absurd

Thomas More Law Center: Town of Palm Beach Pays $50,000 In Attorney Fees Apologizes To Women In Nativity Lawsuit


Additional information:

The ACLU must be destroyed: Joseph Farah supports Boy Scouts, urges Americans to fight back

Citizens mobilized to stop ACLU (seeks to consign group to 'ash heap of history')

ACLU fulfilling communist agenda

Revealing FACTS on the ACLU from its own writings

See how YOUR Senator or Representative ranks with the ACLU

This group just started on December 3, 2004 and are looking for new members to their yahoo group

Let me know if you would like to join my ACLU Ping List!
56 posted on 02/08/2005 6:24:13 PM PST by Jay777 (Gen. Tommy Franks for President in 08)
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To: Austin Willard Wright
Join The Fight at StoptheACLU.org
Join The Fight at StoptheACLU.org

57 posted on 02/08/2005 6:24:55 PM PST by Jay777 (Gen. Tommy Franks for President in 08)
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To: RepCath; Liz; IronJack; Grampa Dave; MeekOneGOP; Iris7; wkdaysoff; ApesForEvolution; EdReform; ...

Ping!


58 posted on 02/08/2005 6:25:41 PM PST by Jay777 (Gen. Tommy Franks for President in 08)
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To: Drango

It would be cool to tell the University and their star chamber to pound sand. (Note, the chilling of free speech works both ways. Churchill comes to mind.)


Treason and sedition are punishable under the Constitution, speech against homosexuality is not.


59 posted on 02/08/2005 6:37:56 PM PST by loboinok (Gun Control is hitting what you aim at!)
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