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To: Fester Chugabrew; WildTurkey
In short, the economic development of NYC food supplies is not a good model for demonstrating self-organization completely apart from intelligence or design.

So what? I don't see how it really matters -- insofar as debating the issue with you -- how good or bad a model is.

You've already stated, in #495, that "every particle of the universe expresses itself collectively in such a way as to manifest design and intelligence". Clearly, unless your claim about "every particle" is qualified as mere musing, or as a philosophical but not a scientific principle, then there is, a priori, no possible model that will be acceptable to you.

552 posted on 02/06/2005 10:55:24 AM PST by Stultis
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To: Stultis
, then there is, a priori, no possible model that will be acceptable to you.

You got that right.

558 posted on 02/06/2005 11:41:10 AM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: Stultis
. . . unless your claim about "every particle" is qualified as mere musing, or as a philosophical but not a scientific principle . . .

My words at #495 were prefaced with, "But I am fairly certain," so they were indeed qualified. It is not my aspiration to make biblical creation a tenet of science, unlike those who deceive themselves and others into thinking the philosophy of evolution is anything but the same.

568 posted on 02/06/2005 3:11:35 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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