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To: Fester Chugabrew
You are using the word "strained" in a manner different than me.

Point taken. I will modify my response. I can understand your example, but it is strained if meant to show that self-organization can account for all of the intelligent design so evident in the universe.

At one time it was strained to consider that the earth revolved around the sun when we felt no motion and could see the sun move across the sky.

At one time it was strained to consider that airplanes could fly without angels holding them up.

At one time it was strained the mind to consider man could travel faster than the speed of sound without tearing his body apart.

That is the problem. For some straining the brain is too painful and they return to their ignorance.

547 posted on 02/06/2005 10:34:08 AM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: WildTurkey
At one time it was strained . . .

If you are trying to enlighten me by by pointing out that human knowledge has increased since the time of creation you need not bother. I already knew that. God created man with minds that are willing and able to inquire about the universe, and man has at times discovered that his thinking must to be modified here and there to be in accord with reality.

But to suggest that by virue of increased knowldge it thereby follows that inanimate matter is capable of organizing itself without an agent other than natural selection applied without intelligence or design, well, that is a bit much. That is a philosophy that should have a course and classroom of its own so we may consider it as one of many possibilities for explaining the universe.

At this time it is apparently a strain for you to consider that God created the heavens and the earth and still sustains them. Thankfully science can get along just fine without your kind.

566 posted on 02/06/2005 3:03:58 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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