[Right Wing Professor]

I would guess that I know just as many Christians and non believers as you do and my experience is that the distribution of liars is pretty equal across the board.

The argument is that without Christianity, we will devolve into amoral chaos. But if Christians' minimal standard of behavior is to be no worse than the people they're inveighing against, that's not terribly persuasive, is it?

[Fester Chugabrew]

The argument is that without Christianity, we will devolve into amoral chaos.

Not a good argument.

[jwalsh07]

The argument is that without Christianity, we will devolve into amoral chaos. But if Christians' minimal standard of behavior is to be no worse than the people they're inveighing against, that's not terribly persuasive, is it?

LOL, so you use my generosity against me? Not very sporting of you Professor.

The argument would seem to me the same as it's alaways been, that being absent absolutes which require God what proscribes one from evil?

Lets take 20th Century America for example. From Roe v Wade in 1973 we have progressed to the point where we kill full term babies who are quite healthy and partially born.

The organization that has led the way in advising the public of what the secularists have accomplished by judicial fiat is the Catholic Church in league with our Evangelical brothers and sisters. I'm active in that movement Professor and I hae yet to see a group from Atheists with Post Grad Degrees in the Sciences for Life marching side by side with us.

Would you agree that religion has exceeded the behavior of the average person in the fight to stop the murder of partially born human beings?

[nasamn777]

The argument is that without Christianity, we will devolve into amoral chaos. But if Christians' minimal standard of behavior is to be no worse than the people they're inveighing against, that's not terribly persuasive, is it?

I know you may not like my engineering thermodynamics. You don't even have to accept Creationism. But it sounds like you would make one hel-of-a good Christian -- well excluding the h--! I pray that you would see the reality of Jesus Christ. He did rise again and new life can be found in him! Carpe Diem.