[Rudder]

Don't read too much between the lines...I never accused you of anything.

I was merely giving you some examples of selective pressure leading to speciation. I assumed you'd see the 'predictability' inherent in my rather simplistic statements. Dog breeders (and more) and microbiologists alike are successfully predicting evolutionary outcome as a matter of day-to-day business.

[Fester Chugabrew]

Dog breeders (and more) and microbiologists alike are successfully predicting evolutionary outcome as a matter of day-to-day business.

Have Dog breeders yet predicted when selective pressures will result in something other than a dog? Have microbiologists yet predicted when selective pressures will result in something other than a microbe?

[Tench_Coxe]

"I was merely giving you some examples of selective pressure leading to speciation. I assumed you'd see the 'predictability' inherent in my rather simplistic statements. Dog breeders (and more) and microbiologists alike are successfully predicting evolutionary outcome as a matter of day-to-day business."

That is still selecting for desired traits within a set. I am more interesed in 'creating a flying pig', as Dawkins would say, without gene-splicing.
Then, I would be more comfortable with proponents of evolution being considered in the 'hard' sciences.
What sets me off is when it is claimed, by inference, that evolution in all aspects is as certain as the sun rising in the east. It is not.