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A Child Learns a Harsh Lesson in Politics
nytimes.com ^ | 02/05/05 | JULIE SALAMON

Posted on 02/05/2005 9:07:25 AM PST by Ellesu

For adults, the fuss over a PBS children's television show featuring an animated bunny - and real lesbian mothers - was nothing new. But for Emma Riesner, 11, who was supposed to be a star of the now-controversial episode of "Postcards From Buster," what began as a participatory social studies lesson has become a harsh lesson in exclusionary politics.

"I was pretty upset when the show was canceled, because I was very excited about it," Emma said in a telephone interview from her home in Vermont. "I know some people don't like gays and lesbians because they think they are bad people. That's just a stereotype and it's kind of hurtful. I don't think people should think of us as very different. We are just the same except we have two moms."

PBS decided last week not to distribute the program to about 350 stations amid objections from various quarters, including a strongly worded disapproval from the new education secretary, Margaret Spellings. Since then, 39 stations have acquired the rights to the episode from WGBH-TV in Boston, which produced the series.

The flap over "Buster" highlights what television schedules make apparent: while gays may be acceptable on television in the evening, children with same-sex parents are not very welcome in Mr. Rogers' old neighborhood.

"We don't want to violate the trust parents have with us," said Allan Pizzato, executive director of Alabama Public Television, explaining why he wouldn't have shown the program even if PBS had distributed it. "Parents can make the decision about when they want to talk about lesbian parents. If PBS sent a program down that said there was no Santa Claus, I wouldn't air that one either. Parents should make that decision, too."

Mr. Pizzato emphasized that the issue for him was about children, not gays. "We air programs that deal with gay lifestyles all the time on Alabama public television," he said, referring to recent programs like "The Congregation," a documentary in which a Methodist pastor revealed that she was gay.

But the lifestyles shown on such shows - or commercial fare like "Will & Grace" and "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy" - don't reflect the lives of Emma, her brothers and their parents, said one of her mothers, Gillian Pieper, who works for an insurance company. "There are no positive role model images of families like ours anywhere in mainstream media," Ms. Pieper said.

Emma's family, including her other mother, Karen Pike, was filmed about a year ago for an episode of "Postcards" meant to show things like where maple sugar and cheese come from. The episode, titled "Sugartime!," is one of 40 live-action episodes in which Buster, a cartoon character from the "Arthur" books and television series, visits real children around the country to show how they live.

The series's mandate from the Department of Education - which provided $5 million in financial support for the show, 63 percent of its budget - is to highlight diversity. Covering 24 states, Buster has visited Hmong children as well as Mormons, Muslims and evangelical Christians.

"One part of the culture we are exploring is family structures," Pierre Valette, an executive producer of the show, said, adding, "We had not done a same-sex household and had our eyes open to that when we came across Karen Pike and her family. We really liked the kids. They worked well on camera. They were really connected to their community."

Vermont, where civil unions are allowed, turned out to be one kind of community. Washington, where PBS raises money, and where Ms. Spellings just took office, is another. Ms. Spellings, who had been President Bush's domestic policy adviser, made her feelings about the episode clear in a letter to PBS, saying it was inappropriate for young children.

A few days earlier, the president, questioned in an interview with The New York Times about gay adoption, said, "Studies have shown that the ideal is where a child is raised in a married family with a man and a woman." Experts say there is no scientific evidence that children raised by gay couples fare any worse than those raised in more traditional households.

Still, with federal money at stake, and grumblings from conservative groups about the association of cartoon characters - including SpongeBob Square Pants - with possibly pro-homosexual attitudes, PBS pulled the show.

Commercial children's television hasn't been much more adventuresome. Nickelodeon, the cable network where SpongeBob makes his home, has no programs featuring same-sex parents. Cyma Zarghami, Nickelodeon Television president, said the subject was delicate.

"When is it O.K. to introduce topics to kids that parents may not be ready to introduce to kids?" Ms. Zarghami asked. "It's very personal. It's polarizing. It's probably different state by state, age by age, boomer parents versus Gen X."

Nickelodeon dealt with the issue two years ago, in a special edition of Linda Ellerbee's "Nick News," when a group of young teenagers from different backgrounds discussed what it meant for children to be raised by gay parents. A month before the special was taped, evangelical Christian groups denounced it.

Right now, a cautious attitude prevails. "We're seeing it boil down to the response of the community," said John Hesse, general manager of Houston Public Television. He said eight people wrote in urging the station to show the "Buster" episode and no one asked that it be banned. The station's solution is to broadcast the program at 8 p.m., on Feb. 18, then follow it with a panel discussion on "The Connection," a weekly talk show.

Ms. Spellings said in the letter to PBS that parents would not want their children exposed to households headed by lesbians. PBS's chief operating officer, Wayne Godwin, said in an interview that the decision not to distribute the episode was "in the better interest of the trust factor with parents and children of this country."

But Nancy Carlsson-Paige, a professor of education at Lesley University in Cambridge, Mass., who in the past has been a consultant for WGBH, said keeping Emma and her brothers out of sight was harmful. "Attitudes or ideas of stereotype and bias develop in kids' minds in part from images they see in books and media," she said. "There's a kind of stereotyping by omission that occurs. We form our categories about families by images we've seen. It is important for children to see their own lives and subcultures reflected to feel they are part of society."

For some conservative groups, having families with same-sex parents feel part of society is precisely the danger they want to combat.

"My big concern is there's an effort in the gay activist movement to indoctrinate kids under the banner of tolerance and diversity to give misleading and inaccurate information about homosexuality," said Bill Maier, child and family psychologist in residence at Focus on the Family, the Christian organization that recently criticized SpongeBob's creator for allowing the character to be used in a what it called a "pro-homosexual video." The video's creator said it was intended to teach children about multiculturalism.

Yet even in a liberal state like Vermont, the children of same-sex marriage can feel ostracized. "At school, kids say that people say having two moms is stupid and I'm stupid because of it," said Emma's brother James, who is 11.

Farah Siddique also knows what it means to feel marginalized, and she is grateful to "Postcards From Buster" for helping her feel less so. Farah, 12, lives in a Chicago suburb with Pakistani and Filipino parents who are Muslim. In a telephone interview, she explained why she was happy to appear on "Postcards From Buster," wearing her hijab (a head covering) and studying the Koran.

"It was important to tell people about my religion and everything," she said. "Some people think we're bad because of 9/11 or something, and I'm telling them we are not bad, we're not trying to hurt anyone or do anything wrong."

Asked what she thought about PBS's decision not to distribute the "Buster" episode about the children with two mothers, she said: "We don't believe in that stuff. My opinion is that it is bad or wrong. My sister is 7, and she watches PBS Kids shows. I wouldn't want her to watch that kind of thing."

What if people said they wouldn't want to watch the episode about her because they don't like Muslims?

Without hesitation Farah replied: "Wow, I hadn't thought about it like that. Can I change what I said? If people were judging me because of my religion I would get really sad. Now I think maybe they should show it."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Vermont
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To: Ellesu
what began as a participatory social studies lesson has become a harsh lesson in exclusionary politics

I love how the left makes up "names" in an effort to reframe the issue. This has NOTHING to do with "exclusionary politics," whatever the hell that means. This is about the FACT that the majority of Americans do not embrace homosex. This is plain old-fashioned social pressure - it is the age-old way that social groups (families, countries, cultures) behaved to maintain norms. People are accepted into their "social group" when they fit within the norms, they are accepted.

Americans view homosex as abnormal and therefore are unwilling to accept people who practice homosex into the "group." Plain and simple.

21 posted on 02/05/2005 9:34:58 AM PST by PLK
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To: Yaelle

My children go to a private Christian school, and they will not have friends that have gay parents.

I teach my children to show respect for all people, but they do not have to accept it or tolerate it being shoved down their throats.

Every parent has the right to raise their children how they choose, send them to whatever school they choose, and allow them to be friends with whomever they choose.

It's our choice that our children do not associate with queers or queer families. I respect your choice/your opinions, it's your decision.


22 posted on 02/05/2005 9:47:57 AM PST by Ellesu
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To: Ellesu
"There are no positive role model images of families like ours anywhere in mainstream media," Ms. Pieper said.

A master at stating the obvious

Experts say there is no scientific evidence that children raised by gay couples fare any worse than those raised in more traditional households.

I always love the phrase experts say. When it does not cite a particular study to back it up you know it's a lie.
23 posted on 02/05/2005 9:49:13 AM PST by VIDADDICT ("A news man is always fully-cocked, Andy." - Les Nessman)
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To: Ellesu

I feel awful for the little girl and her brothers. Mommy and Mommy made their choices, but it must be heartbreaking for her to not understand why this is happening. She's probably been told it's because all the evil, ill-informed rednecks hate her mommies and want them to be unhappy.


24 posted on 02/05/2005 9:51:16 AM PST by Incandesia (Please don't eat the Newbie)
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To: Yaelle
I treat people the way I wish to be treated.

If the gays did that 90% of the static most normal people have with them would not be evident. The problem normal people have with the gays is not that they are gay but that they are telling us they are gay.

25 posted on 02/05/2005 9:51:39 AM PST by CzarNicky (The problem with bad ideas is that they seemed like good ideas at the time.)
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To: Yaelle
The thing is that people want to explain the facts to their children not have some tv show shove it down their throat. Personally I don't want my kid thinking that being gay or lesbian is normal or a choice to be made, it isn't. And don't give me that crap about "who is to decide what is normal?" Normal is defined in the fact their are two sexes. People are not meant to have sexual relations with members of the same sex. Period.

Letting gays and lesbians adopt children simply makes more gays and lesbians. They are brainwashed from infancy, as this little girls remarks make clear. She thinks she is a lesbian, it is obvious from her remarks. The odds are she is not lesbian, but is being made to think it is ok to be by her two "moms". This is an unhealthy life style for these children and this kind of thing should stop. If gays and lesbians were not allowed to adopt children then I wouldn't have to explain it to MY children would I?

I know you probably think I hate gays and lesbians. I do not, but neither do I think it is a lifestyle to be imitated or even condoned. I have queer friends, grew up with a few. I treat them fine but do not subscribe to their life style or think it should be passed on to children.

26 posted on 02/05/2005 9:57:34 AM PST by calex59
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To: Ellesu
Thanx for the link Ellesu, although I didn't survive the whole thing.

The only thing worse than pimping PBS to advance the agendas of degenerates is to pimp little kids to advance the agendas of degenerates...
27 posted on 02/05/2005 9:59:24 AM PST by rockrr (Revote or Revolt! It's up to you Washington!)
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To: Ellesu; CzarNicky; Two-Bits; SamAdams76; Baynative; HannaUSA; philetus; NoClones; Jaysun; ...

"The episode, titled "Sugartime!," is one of 40 live-action episodes in which Buster, a cartoon character from the "Arthur" books and television series, visits real children around the country to show how they live. The series's mandate from the Department of Education - which provided $5 million in financial support for the show, 63 percent of its budget - is to highlight diversity."

Money well spent? Maybe Joe Scarborough of Scarborough Country and Rome Wasn't Burnt in a Day has something to say about that!

$5 million dollars is a lot of money that could fund safer school buses, training for teachers - strike that, performance pay for teachers, and more!!!

Or of course, that $5 million might be best served in OUR pockets. Or CBS's to do their own liberal program - and we don't have to fund or watch that stuff.

I hope I'm beginning to make sense.


28 posted on 02/05/2005 10:07:06 AM PST by Josef1235 (My blog: http://josef-a-k.blogspot.com)
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To: Ellesu

Ah, the great New York Times. As someone else noted, the phrase "Experts say..." would not get by the editor of a decent high school newspaper. Then the enchange at the end, where the writer presents an agenda-driven question without even the ruse of "when this reporter asked the child...", is so far beyond journalistic propriety that it can hardly be believed.


29 posted on 02/05/2005 10:11:38 AM PST by BelieveNFreedom
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To: Yaelle
do you think Jesus would have avoided, insulted, or denigrated these kids or their parents?

I'm not really sure WHAT Jesus would have done. On the one hand the children shouldn't suffer for the sins of the parents. But on the other He said it would have been better for one to never have been born than to put a stumbling block in front of one of these (children).

This brainwashing is going to lead to unhappy lives for these kids and I am wholeheartedly against allowing homosexuals to adopt for this reason. Or raise children at all for that matter, theirs or someone elses.

30 posted on 02/05/2005 10:14:28 AM PST by ichabod1 (The Spirit of the Lord Hath Left This Place)
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To: BelieveNFreedom

By the way, studies do in fact exist that document the emotional and psychological problems of children raised by 'queer' groups. I can't swear to this but I believe that Kay Hymowitz whose writings appear at wwww.city-journal.org, has referenced them in some of her writings.

Someone should have informed that poor 'brain-washed' Muslim girl of the fate the two 'mommies' would suffer in any Muslim dominated culture. To say nothing of the sheer chutzpah and sacrilege of comparing lesbianism to a religion. Yet no one seems to notice. Sick!


31 posted on 02/05/2005 10:26:22 AM PST by NHResident
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To: Yaelle
I was really surprised to click on your home pg. and see that you're from California.
32 posted on 02/05/2005 10:27:30 AM PST by jla
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To: Ellesu
Post #22 - excellent reply.
33 posted on 02/05/2005 10:28:17 AM PST by jla
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To: Ellesu

The Lebians are ok ...I am afraid of this Buster Bunny guy though, Rabbits like that give me the creeps


34 posted on 02/05/2005 10:28:54 AM PST by woofie
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To: jla

Thank You.


35 posted on 02/05/2005 10:30:19 AM PST by Ellesu
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To: Yaelle
Off the subject of this particular TV show, what do all you anti-gay people want little children to do or say when they have kids with gay parents in their classes, neighborhoods, among their friends? If you are Christian, do you think Jesus would have avoided, insulted, or denigrated these kids or their parents?

There is a huge difference between being "anti-gay" and objecting to having our younger children given advocacy lessons in regards to that lifestyle or any other sexual adult relationship for that matter.

In the old TV show, "Family Affair", Mr. French could have been Uncle Bill's bi-sexual lover on the side for all we know. Our kids don't need to know that part. (Frankly, neither do we.) Unless an adult brings up the subject, kid's don't even think about such things.

My kids had a classmate in their elementary school class that had, as the euphemism now goes, "two Mommies".

My kids went to "Mary's" birthday parties and other social occasions at her house. We, the parents, socialized with her "two Mommies". However, the subject of lesbian relationships was not discussed with any of our children and none of them ever bothered to ask.

If we do not discuss the heterosexual sex lives of Tommy's parents with our younger kids, why should we discuss the homosexual sex lives of Mary's "two Mommies" with them?

In this particular case, it turns out that "Mary" never actually had "two Mommies". The biological mother, the highly paid professional, eventually became dissatisfied with the stay-at-home non-biological Mommy and dumped her.

Biological Mommy did not have to pay alimony and her biological motherhood status made joint custody a legal non-issue. Biological Mommy simply took 100% of her property and her biological child out of the house she and Non-Biological Mommy had rented together and simply walked out.

"See ya!"

In the end, when push came to shove, "Mary" only had one Mommy. She never really had two.

36 posted on 02/05/2005 10:34:26 AM PST by Polybius
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To: Polybius

Neither do bunnies.


37 posted on 02/05/2005 10:41:04 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: woofie
Hi! Buster here. I have a new show! I'm traveling across North America with my dad, meeting really cool kids, eating great food, and doing a bunch of fun things I've never done before.
38 posted on 02/05/2005 11:01:03 AM PST by Ellesu
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To: Ellesu; Grampa Dave; little jeremiah; scripter; Clint N. Suhks; DirtyHarryY2K; ArGee; nicmarlo; ...
BTTT


Homosexual Agenda: Categorical Index of Links (Version 1.1)


What We Can Do To Help Defeat the "Gay" Agenda


Myth and Reality about Homosexuality--Sexual Orientation Section, Guide to Family Issues"

39 posted on 02/05/2005 11:29:28 AM PST by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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To: Yaelle

I don't want my tax dollars to pay for pro-gay family propaganda. If these are truly "little kids," I doubt they'd even know their parents were gay or what that meant. Only kids at the age of puberty would be aware of such things.

I'm not "anti-gay," BTW. My daughter thinks she's gay but I pray for her recovery. In the meantime I love her even if I think this "lifestyle" is destructive.


40 posted on 02/05/2005 11:36:36 AM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Click on my name to see what readers have said about my Christian novels!)
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