China chipping away at US national security

The Taipei Times ^ | Friday, Feb 04, 2005 | Paul Lin

[Willie Green]

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[Mr. Mojo]

......and there have been many incidents of the theft of military technology through commercial or research channels

And Presidential ones too.

[Eric in the Ozarks]

The Red Chinese don't need to risk stealing anything when the Clintons will sell it to them for a kickback.

[warchild9]

The Clinton administration was YEARS ago, Eric. There's a whole new set of traitors in town, selling us out.

[Dont_Tread_On_Me_888]

On Jan. 20, in US President George W. Bush's second inauguration speech, he said that "the survival of liberty in our land increasingly depends on the success of liberty in other lands. The best hope for peace in our world is the expansion of freedom in all the world."

Yet, George Bush has abandoned Taiwan and said the U.S. will pusue the "One China" policy.

If Clinton did this, the entire forum here would be calling Clinton a liar.

[FreedomAvatar]

I'm not worried. We'll fatten them up with hamburgers and sue them into oblivion.

[datura]

How and when is it exactly that the president has abandoned Taiwan? Cite an example. Denying weapons sales? No. Denying them our presence in their territorial waters? No. Denying them intelligence data? No. Calling on the ChiComs to stop placing missiles on the strait? Yes. Allowing high level contacts with Taiwanese defense officials and our DoD? Yes.

So let's hear your PROOF, not just your interpretation of diplomatic BS.

[F16Fighter]

"And Presidential ones [theft of military technology] too."

Is it ANY coincidence that since the Presidency of one Bill Clinton, highlighted by his posing with Chinese "businessmen," China has exploded out of nowhere to become a space, military, economic, and technology "leader"?

And on the issue of China's "chipping away at US national security," shall we mention Jimmy Carter's giving away the Panama Canal to the Chinese?

[Mr. Mojo]

No coincidence at all, of course. .....and they both get a free pass! Hopefully one day history will set the record straight.

[datura]

No, it's not coincidental. Clinton still has official contacts inside China, as well as people inside our government doing his bidding. Same goes with Bill Gates, and his shameful ChiCom ass kissing the other day. Gates evidently has some serious cash riding on the demise of the US and the ascendancy of China.

There's no shortage of traitors in high places these days.

[F16Fighter]

"Hopefully one day history will set the record straight."

By the time "historians" from liberal academics are done re-creating his "legacy," I'm afraid Washington will be replaced by Bubba at Mount Rushmore.

[F16Fighter]

"There's no shortage of traitors in high places these days."

Unfortunately, the term "traitor" no longer exists.

Nowadays, there is only a hue and cry for the death penalty if prison guards wrap underwear around perps' heads.

[Dog Gone]

Anyone who thinks China won't be an economic superpower and fully capable of ICBM warfare by 2040 is kidding themselves.

There is absolutely no way to prevent it.

[Paperdoll]

>Yet George Bush has abandoned Taiwan and said the U.S. will pursue the "One China" policy.<

Some puzzlements:

Actually wasn't 41 deep "into" China, with 42 a devoted follower? Anyone know who China may have backed for president in 2004?

[Nick Danger]

The fact that this guy wants to tell us that China is bad news should not obscure the fact that this is a horribly written piece that reflects a mind that can string words together, but cannot think.

This guy goes back and forth, all over the map, arguing with himself. He crabs about IBM selling them a PC factory, but then tells us that the best way for the communists to stay in power is to block the people's access to information. Well, which is it? Should we encourage the proliferation of PCs in China, or not? There is no better tool for spreading information around quickly than a PC. Shouldn't we hope they're stupid enough to put a PC on every desk?

The Russian dissidents had their Samizdat — illegally xeroxed books and pamphlets that they passed around. The Chinese could have the electronic version, running at the speed of light. But nooooo, we should keep PC technology out of the hands of the Chinese because of all the national security secrets in it. What a joke. The Cray XT3 we should keep secret. But PCs? Come on. The stuff is all made in China now anyway.

Then he crabs that if we don't sell them a PC factory, somebody else will. And he winds up by saying we shouldn't forget "to assist the people of China in gaining access to the idea of freedom and opposition to tyrannical rule." Idiot.

Could we get somebody in here who can think before they rant?

[Bogolyubski]

I've got bad news for you: China already has ICBM's fully capable of striking the US mainland. One of her top generals (=warlords) openly threatened to nuke Los Angeles if we tried to prevent the "unification" (=conquest) of Taiwan. North Korea is on the brink of being able to reach the US mainland with their missiles as well.

Good points about Carter and Clinton. To be fair, however, let's not forget that the current president has allowed the sale and transfer of the facility responsible for manufacturing smart bombs to be relocated to China. He has moreover done zero to prosecute the treasonous activities of Loral, Clinton, et al. His father, George H. W. "Deep Throat" Bush, was gung-ho for "free trade" with the slave-masters of Beijing even as the Red Army mowed down thousands in Tienamen square.

China enjoys "Most Favored Nation" status now, despite the slave-labor camps, the crony-capitalist arrangements, complete violations of treaties they signed regarding US intellectual property, etc. Republicans are all in favor of this, naturally. All of the grand rhetoric about "freedom" and "democracy" sounds a bit empty when you look at reality.

[Eric in the Ozarks]

The Clintons did the most damage.

[Dont_Tread_On_Me_888]

So let's hear your PROOF

As this article below states, Feb., 2002, Bush quoted as saying he adheres to the One China policy. When Bush "adheres" to the "One China" policy, it means that the U.S. backs the Chicoms and tells Taiwan that they can't seek their own independence.

Free Iraq--Enslave Taiwan?

Just Google and search for the following:

Bush One China policy

You will find plenty of other instances where Bush, Colin Powell and others in the administration stress that they back the "One China policy"--those are fancy words for "screw Taiwan".

Bush seeks freedom and liberty for nations, but when it comes to a threat by China and Russia, all of a sudden he no longer seeks freedom anymore.

[Eric in the Ozarks]

IBM is small potatoes.

[Paperdoll]

The mass manufacturing exodus by greedy corporations led us to this. By giving away our technology and jobs to line their own pockets, they have strengthened the rest of the world, but put America into deep trade deposits, a falling dollar, thus making us vulnerable to the whims of foreign governments.

The crack in the formerly solid wall of our Republic widens as do the eyes of Americans at where we now find ourselves.

The questions should be: Why did our government adopt NAFTA, GAT and the WTO? Why couldn't they see this coming, or did they see exactly what these treaties would lead to? And what do we do now, Mom?