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Bush Victory in 2004 Election Much Deeper, More Widespread than Widely Reported

Posted on 02/05/2005 7:44:53 AM PST by quesney

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To: chris1; quesney

<< If this keeps up - 2006 will be great! >>

It will.

Compounded.

It will.

Compounded.


21 posted on 02/05/2005 9:13:52 AM PST by Brian Allen (I fly and can therefore be envious of no man -- Per Adua Ad Astra!)
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To: speedy
Rat voter fraud strikes again. Some wiseguy in Bismark voted four times.

Yeah, they held the voting in "the" building...
under "the" tree.

Full Disclosure: Yes, I lived in Minnesota. Yes, we made fun of Iowa and the Dakotas.

Second Disclosure: After suffering through Arizona summer, I'd love to move back to Minneapolis or even Fargo / Moorhead

Cheers!

22 posted on 02/05/2005 9:13:55 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

Understood. ND is a beautiful state, but I think the winters would be a real test. And I say this as one living in MA.


23 posted on 02/05/2005 9:19:21 AM PST by speedy
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To: quesney

It was this trend that caused Dick Morris to confidently call the election for Bush back when the media was have a goreasm over exit polls that had Kerry winning roundly. IIRC, Morris said, "The earliest returns show Bush is doing better than he did in 2000 in virtually every precinct outside of Kerry's home turf. He will win."


24 posted on 02/05/2005 9:47:32 AM PST by RightOnTheLeftCoast (You're it)
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To: quesney

The pros are looking for a "realignment."

A realignment is a permanent shift in political sentiment.

But you don't find realignments by looking at the data for just one candidate. For instance, President Clinton improved his percentage from 42% of the popular vote in 1992 to 49% in 1996. If we drew conclusions from that improvement, we'd be claiming that Democrats would be sweeping the field clean of their opposition in 2000 and 2004.

Clearly that didn't happen.

Instead, you find "Realignments" by looking downticket at Party results. Here you see Republican improvements in the House and Senate for 1994, 1996, 1998, 2002, and 2004. That's a decade of lower-ticket improvements.

Further down the ticket, you see that Republicans have come back in from the wilderness to now control most state legislatures, most state governorships (including the top post in Massachusetts, California, and New York), as well as finally regain the lead in national voter registrations over Democrats in 2005.

Now *that's* a realignment.

The other notable change in 2000 and 2004 from earlier national elections was that Rove devised the first American political strategy to ever figure out how to win the Presidency without winning either California or New York.

That change in political strategy meant that Republicans were no longer held hostage to the more liberal politics that are required for winning those two states. Instead of being forced to pay homage to liberal New York power brokers, suddenly the GOP is listening to Alabama and Texas conservatives.

So not only do we see a political realignment, but we also see an ideological realignment.

Suddenly, liberal policies are a liability. Hollywood Leftism detracts, rather than adds to a candidate's national success chances.

So it's no surprise that after being beaten so widely, that in the face of this realignment the Democrats have moved pro-life Senator Reid into their Senate Minority Leadership Chair. Nor would it be a surprise if pro-life Roemer won the DNC chair (though that's no sure thing). Neither should it surprise anyone to see Hillary championing a "pro-chife" choice/life compromise position rather than touting the abortion on demand radicalism from the likes of NOW and NARAL.

Faced with national realignment, the Democrats who hope to be competitive in the future know that they have to move to the Right.

...such is the power of a realignment. Even the opposition has to make a move.

25 posted on 02/05/2005 9:58:25 AM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast

"The earliest returns show Bush is doing better than he did in 2000 in virtually every precinct outside of Kerry's home turf."

Err...except that Bush ALSO did better on Kerry's home turf. My numbers show Bush went up 4% in Massachussetts and his margin of loss shrank by 2% from the 2000 to the 2004 election. Support for Bush went up almost nationwide.

And I'd be fascinated by county-by-county results -- especially in Massachusetts. My guess is that his numbers surged in South Boston and other working class Reagan Democrat bastions.


26 posted on 02/05/2005 10:00:23 AM PST by quesney
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To: quesney

bookmark


27 posted on 02/05/2005 10:13:46 AM PST by AlGone2001 (You will never know that Jesus is all you need, until Jesus is all you've got-Mother Theresa)
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To: quesney

Thanks for posting - - excellent!


28 posted on 02/05/2005 10:18:25 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Southack
President Clinton improved his percentage from 42% of the popular vote in 1992 to 49% in 1996. If we drew conclusions from that improvement, we'd be claiming that Democrats would be sweeping the field clean of their opposition in 2000 and 2004.

Any analysis of the two Clinton elections MUST take into account Ross Perot's 19% in '92. Likewise, though to a much lesser extent, the impact of Nader must be factored into the 2000 election. These wild cards DID effect the outcomes of those two elections.

29 posted on 02/05/2005 10:21:50 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Darth Reagan

ping


30 posted on 02/05/2005 10:30:37 AM PST by marblehead17 (I love it when a plan comes together.)
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To: quesney

What is your SOURCE for this information ..??


31 posted on 02/05/2005 10:30:53 AM PST by CyberAnt (Where are the dem supporters? - try the trash cans in back of the abortion clinics.)
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To: chris1

Well .. that's part of the problem .. it won't "keep up" without our help. We need to continue to educate people about the conservative message.

And .. we need to get behind our LOCAL conservative people running for office and support them and their ideas - with our mouth and our money. I know this kind of involvement is not possible for everybody. But .. YOU CAN WRITE LETTERS OR EMAILS TO THE EDITOR of newspapers or magazines, etc. - YOU CAN WRITE LETTERS OR EMAILS TO YOUR CONGRESS PEOPLE - etc.

I have documents which contain the email addresses of bunches of media people. Whenever I have a bug under my collar - I send off an email. Like when this "exit strategy" thing kept getting hotter and hotter. I sent an email to hundreds of people with a simple message: EXIT STRATEGERY = V I C T O R Y

A secret I've learned - when you send your emails to lots of people - put just ONE NAME in the TO: box, and put ALL THE OTHERS IN THE bcc: box. The bcc stands for "blind carbon copy". That means that all the other people won't know you sent that message to all those other people - and they are less likely to throw your message out.

If our activism "keeps up" - 2006 will be great!!


32 posted on 02/05/2005 10:47:15 AM PST by CyberAnt (Where are the dem supporters? - try the trash cans in back of the abortion clinics.)
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To: CyberAnt

Source of all the vote totals was the Washington Post 2004 election results page, which I googled. I dumped them into an excel spreadsheet, did the simple calculations of 2000-2004 changes and ranked them myself.


33 posted on 02/05/2005 10:52:53 AM PST by quesney
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To: Thud

Check out post #19


34 posted on 02/05/2005 11:00:11 AM PST by Dark Wing
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To: quesney

Figures - Vermont!


35 posted on 02/05/2005 11:32:22 AM PST by Raffus (Thanks to all Veterans for their service to our Country.)
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To: GiveEmDubya

wouldn't surpise me...I beleive Wisconsin is about 115% of voters who actually cast a ballot versus actual voters who were registered to cast a ballot!


36 posted on 02/05/2005 11:43:19 AM PST by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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To: quesney

This is some good work you've done here. Thanks for the post.


37 posted on 02/05/2005 11:46:18 AM PST by ChadGore (VISUALIZE 62,041,268 Bush fans.)
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