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U.N. Says U.S. Not Done Enough on Guantanamo
Reuters ^ | 2-4-05

Posted on 02/04/2005 4:27:03 PM PST by Indy Pendance

GENEVA (Reuters) - The United States has done too little to improve treatment of prisoners at its Guantanamo Bay naval base and risks doing more harm than good in the battle against terror, U.N. human rights investigators said Friday.

In a joint statement, six inspectors voiced fresh concern at reports of inhuman and degrading treatment of inmates at Guantanamo, saying the global fight against terrorism would be weakened if countries failed to uphold basic legal protections.

"The right and duty of all states to use all lawful means to protect their citizens against death and destruction brought about by terrorists must be exercised in conformity with international law, lest the whole cause of the international fight against terrorism be compromised," the U.N. experts said.

Recent moves, including the "Combatant Status Review Tribunals" created by the Pentagon last year following a Supreme Court rebuke and the release of four Britons and an Australian held as terrorism suspects, were "insufficient to dispel the serious concerns" over conditions, the inspectors added.

At Guantanamo, there was "the need to objectively assess the allegations of torture, and other cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment, particularly in relation to methods of interrogation of detainees."

The statement noted that many Guantanamo inmates had been held virtually incommunicado for nearly three years, without legal advice or information about how long they were likely to remain incarcerated. Most did not know whether criminal charges would be laid against them.

More than 540 al Qaeda suspects and accused Taliban fighters are being held at the remote base on the southeastern tip of Cuba after the 2001 invasion of Afghanistan and from operations in the U.S. war on terrorism.

The United States long has faced international criticism for its treatment of Guantanamo prisoners, with even FBI memos made public accusing Pentagon interrogators of using "torture techniques."

The U.N. investigators said the legal basis for the prisoners' continued detention remained unclear, and that even the exact number and names of those detained was unknown.

A U.S. District judge ruled Monday that the "Combatant Status Review Tribunals" still violated the prisoners' constitutional rights because they did not have access to lawyers or secret evidence, including evidence that may have been obtained through torture or coercion.

Another federal judge in Washington recently came to the opposite conclusion, and the issue is still pending before the appeals courts.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: detainees; gitmo; onionnations
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1 posted on 02/04/2005 4:27:03 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: Indy Pendance

US says to UN, "Bite me!"


2 posted on 02/04/2005 4:28:11 PM PST by My2Cents ("Here's my strategy on the Cold War: We win, they lose." -- President Ronald Reagan)
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To: Indy Pendance

Well, my opinion is that there really isn't a whole lot more we can do until we evacuate all the Americans and all the Cubans who don't want to live under Castro anymore. After that, we can sink the island.


3 posted on 02/04/2005 4:29:39 PM PST by Cornpone (Aging Warrior -- Aim High -- Who Dares Wins)
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To: Indy Pendance

Well, I guess it is time to send all of the UN officials to Gitmo for interrogation so that they can fully understand the situation. I'll buy the pork rind snacks and Israeli flags Someone bring a camera and the women's panties for their heads. Bunch of Third World ingrates.


4 posted on 02/04/2005 4:30:16 PM PST by peyton randolph (CAIR supports TROP terrorists)
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To: Indy Pendance

If these idiots prevail, there will never again be prisoners of war kept by the US. We will just massacre anyone and everyone surrendering.

Let the Muslims complain about that, if they have any witnesses.


5 posted on 02/04/2005 4:30:29 PM PST by jolie560
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To: Indy Pendance

"U.N. human rights investigator..."??? "UN Human rights"???

Ridiculous attempt to presume credibility where none exists.




6 posted on 02/04/2005 4:32:58 PM PST by purpleland (The price of freedom is vigilance.)
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To: peyton randolph
"more harm than good in the battle against terror"
Fair enough: the harm is being done to the terrorists, while the good accrues to the rest of us. They simply cannot finish the thought.
7 posted on 02/04/2005 4:34:12 PM PST by GSlob
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To: Indy Pendance

Was this report done by the same people who couldn't find any genocide in the Sudan?


8 posted on 02/04/2005 4:34:36 PM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: Indy Pendance

What the heck has the UN done right yet. Screw the UN. Add to that screw list the liberal courts. Stay out of the way of the military trying to secure a safe America.


9 posted on 02/04/2005 4:35:04 PM PST by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: Indy Pendance

US says , the UN has not done enough on OIL FOR FOOD SCAM


10 posted on 02/04/2005 4:35:16 PM PST by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The ( FOOL ) hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: Indy Pendance

Well, OK. I guess we should pattern our anti-terrorism efforts after the very successful ones the UN has employed. Uh...just what were those, anyway?


11 posted on 02/04/2005 4:35:51 PM PST by Billthedrill
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(...six inspectors voiced fresh concern at reports of inhuman and degrading treatment of inmates at Guantanamo...)

Oh really? This from the UN who has done nothing to root out the thousands of their own sex perverts preying on widows and orphans. Hypocrites of the worst order.


12 posted on 02/04/2005 4:36:49 PM PST by captain anode
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To: Indy Pendance

I would like to invite the U.N. to S.T.F.U.


13 posted on 02/04/2005 4:44:49 PM PST by theDentist (Jerry Springer: PBS for White Trash)
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To: Indy Pendance

I don't know how foreigners not on US soil have US constitutional rights. I know I don't have them when I leave the US.


14 posted on 02/04/2005 4:47:10 PM PST by Dog Gone
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Why dont these UN right investigators go check out the Sudan, Check out Iran which is about to hang a man and stone his wife to death. Why dont they interview Zarkawi about the beheadings. Why dont they STFU.

I can hear it now at UN headquarters. " We have to inspect somebody should we go to Iraq and take a chance on being shot ? Or down to Gitmo where its 85 , the sun is shining and we get steaks for supper every night" GITMO they all say.


15 posted on 02/04/2005 4:57:27 PM PST by sgtbono2002
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"The right and duty of all states to use all lawful means to protect their citizens against death and destruction brought about by terrorists must be exercised in conformity with international law, lest the whole cause of the international fight against terrorism be compromised," the U.N. experts said.


Are they talking about Gitmo or the Sudan?


16 posted on 02/04/2005 4:58:54 PM PST by loboinok (Gun Control is hitting what you aim at!)
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To: Indy Pendance
Do we have the final UN report yet on how Al Qaeda, the Taliban or the Baathists treat their prisoners? What? There is no report!!??

That's understandable. Those people obviously don't torture, mutilate or behead anybody and so these UN Poobahs needn't bother looking there. Forget the Al Jezeera video feeds!

Besides, if any of these UN inspectors showed up for an inspection, the next time we saw him he would be lying in a bloody ditch with his head propped up on his stomach and his guts cut out.

No sense risking that, is there? It's easier (and safer) to show up at GITMO and get the red carpet treatment (steak and champagne at the Club and the VIP Suites) and respectful curtseys from anxious American Commanders!

17 posted on 02/04/2005 5:05:13 PM PST by Gritty ("It's Europe that's looking more like an unwinnable quagmire"-Mark Steyn)
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To: Indy Pendance

There was a time when I supported the U.N. (1951/52) then
I grew up.

It is still around and I don't understant why. Can anyone
help me out with this?

Thanks


18 posted on 02/04/2005 5:34:00 PM PST by cleo1939
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To: Dog Gone

Thay are on a US military base so that makes it US soil. The biggest mistake ever made by this administration was bringing them B$@tards there. Shoulda kept them in Afganistan and let them rot in a cave in.


19 posted on 02/04/2005 5:38:24 PM PST by crz
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Hey, Kofi - what have you done to stop the tens of thousands being slaughtered, as we write, in the Sudan?

Hello?

hello...

20 posted on 02/04/2005 6:19:32 PM PST by maine-iac7 (...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time." Lincoln)
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