Posted on 02/03/2005 10:37:05 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
It is a war on freedom.
Folks, this is not about left/right - it is good/evil. Believe it.
This toll crap is going in all over our country: just google toll roads and see it happening throughout America. For information about Austin's plan, and what we're trying to do to stuff it, go to Austin Toll Party .
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I agree. The leftists and the UN are buddies in the same. I forgot the link but Ted Kennedy and some other Senator want the UN to control OUR elections. It is just insane.
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Hi Dixielander, I see you have B4Ranch on your ping list. He was banned earlier today.
Oh no! What happened?
Sorry to hear that.
This is off-topic, or is it? I think not.
Action Alert: Oppose H.R. 418 (national ID)
February 8, 2005
Are the terrorists winning? When al-Qaeda attacked the United States on
September 11, 2001, they made it clear they hate America and want to terrorize
us into changing America.
If they could, the terrorists would destroy the unique American way of life. But they
can't. Only we can do that.
Tragically, too much of the legislation enacted by Congress in a knee-jerk reaction
to 9/11 does al-Qaeda's job for them. The Patriot Act took the first, disastrous
step toward fundamentally changing our way of life. Then came the homeland
security bill, followed by the 9/11 intelligence reorganization bill. And now the Real
ID Act of 2005 (H.R. 418) will be voted on Thursday, February 10th.
What's wrong with H.R. 418 -- a bill we are told will stem the flow of illegal aliens
through our porous borders? For starters, it does NOTHING to stem the flow of
illegal aliens. Instead, H.R. 418 will:
1. Establish a national ID card.
2. Establish a federally-coordinated database of personal information on
merican citizens with Canada and Mexico.
3. Use the new national ID to track American citizens when traveling outside
the U.S. -- and within the U.S.
4. Re-define "terrorism" in broad new terms that could include members of
firearms rights and anti-abortion groups or other such groups as determined by
whoever is in power at the time.
5. Authorize the secretary of the Department of Homeland Security to unilaterally
expand the information included in driver's licenses, including such biometric
information as retina scans and DNA information -- and even radio frequency
identification (RFID) tracking technology. Carry a driver’s license with RFID and
governmental officials will know your whereabouts 24/7.
Incredibly, H.R. 418 does nothing to solve the growing threat to national security
posed by people who are already in the U.S. illegally. Instead, H.R. 418 states
what we already know: that certain people here illegally are "deportable." But it
does nothing to mandate deportation. H.R. 418 fails miserably on this most
critical issue.
The Real ID Act or Real National ID Act will impose a Soviet-style internal
passport on law-abiding American citizens. Proponents of H.R. 418 say we must "make sacrifices" like this to control our borders and fight illegal immigration. But
H.R. 418 is a Trojan horse -- it pretends to offer desperately needed border
control in order to stampede Americans into sacrificing what is uniquely American:
more of our constitutionally protected liberty. H.R. 418 does what al-Qaeda could
never do without our help.
H.R. 418 does what legislation restricting firearm ownership does. It punishes
law-abiding citizens. Criminals will ignore it. H.R. 418 offers us a false sense of
greater security at the cost of taking a gigantic step toward making America a
police state. The terrorists will have won.
Urge your U.S. representative to vote "no" on H.R. 418.
Go to http://capwiz.com/liberty/issues/alert/?alertid=6938731&type=CO
Kent Snyder
The Liberty Committee
HR418 is only meant to cover 4 items tossed out of the "intelligence bill"...you know the one that calls for 2000 border guards, but the white house won't fund. Our reps would like us to believe the problem of illegal immigration is being addressed by it. Not much. It will never get through the senate and it does nothing to stem the tide of illegals, but the 4 items in it might be okay, it just doesn't go far enough. Search "immigration" and you'll see posts about it.
Thanks for the info.
Thank you too.
I don't understand your remarks. While I'm extremely concerned about immigration issues I'm even more concerned about police state issues and that's what a national I.D. card will open the door for. Petitioning our senators to vote against H.R. 418 is to prevent national I.D. card legislation from being enacted.
You stated that the Senate wouldn't pass H.R. 418. Why do you think that?
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Not off topic at all.
Yet another attempt to extend federal control and command,
as we are moved ever closer to the train yard of the NWO.
I like the liberty committe that you sighted before, but I find nothing that establishes a "national ID" in HR 418. It will make standards for states issuing driver's license. Read it over for yourself.
The senate (except Inhofe) has no interest in addressing illegal immigration. Frist was on the tube last night and said they would try to "get to it" in the next few years.
The bill is a start, covers only terrorism aspects except for the finishing of the San Diego fence, which ticks off the enviro's, which makes me like it! LOL!
HUMAN EVENTS: What are the key provisions of your REAL ID act?
SENSENBRENNER: There are four provisions. First, an applicant for a driver's license or renewal must prove lawful presence in the United States, otherwise the driver's license will be endorsed that they have not done so. The driver's licenses would have to indicate lawful presence to be used for federal purposes, such as getting on an airplane. Second, the bill tightens the asylum laws so that terrorists, like the one who plotted the '93 World Trade Center bombing and the man who shot up the entrance to the CIA headquarters, could not get into the country and roam around as an asylum applicant. Third, the bill completes the 3-and-half mile gap in the border fence south of San Diego that has been held up as a result of environmental lawsuits. And fourth, the bill changes the law that says that if an alien is not admissible into the United States because of affiliation with terrorist groups, that alien is deportable. The present law says if someone makes a mistake to let you in, we cannot kick you out in some circumstances.
HUMAN EVENTS: When these provisions were being discussed last year, some in the Senate said we should not interfere with the rights of states to deal with their driver's licenses. Why does your proposal not contradict the 10th Amendment, which says that powers not specifically delegated to the federal government should be reserved to the states or the people?
SENSENBRENNER: It does not do so because it does not tell the states who they can issue driver's licenses to and who they can't. What it does say is that when they issue a driver's license, in order for that driver's license to be used for federal ID purposes, the applicant must show lawful presence in the United States. This, in my opinion, is a very important provision if we are to avoid the pressure for a national ID card, which I oppose.
Read the entire interview: http://www.HumanEventsOnline.com/article.php?id=6504
Thanks for the information and link.
I just heard Alex Jones say that on the third hour of his program today (between 1 and 2 Central time, www.infowars.com )either Ron Paul or Jeff Dice from his office will discuss H.R. 418 and its implications. I'll be tuning in; perhaps you'd like to hear it as well.
Alex also mentioned that during his show today he'll be discussing the toll road issue in Austin and elsewhere.
Are you and I the only AJ listeners on this forum? ;-)
I've got it, and immediately loaned it out to try and wake up a friend. Here in the CenTex, we've got a pretty good group of folks who are spreading the word. Jack McLamb and John Moore are coming down here next weekend to speak, and will be staying with some other friends - so I hope to get to meet those guys while they're in town.
You do know about rbnlive.com and their internet streams, don't you?
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